Turning Jesus into God

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Giftedone, Feb 16, 2021.

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God or Messenger of God .. does it matter ?

  1. Yes - it matters ..

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  2. No - it does not

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  3. Other - I don't understand the question .. need more information .. @#$% - does not compute !

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I don't accept your "different times" argument. Humans are the same animals since our evolution. There is evidence of spirituality going way back in ancient cultures the world over.

    I understand the difference between the OT religion and the NT religion very well. And, I understand how the desire for it to be considered one religion is significant.

    But, as I pointed out, the two just don't compare in terms that go way beyond the two different paths to salvation.

    Jericho and Matthew 25 just do not share anything at all.

    The law of Jesus is an inspiration to us all today. The idea of all of us, Christians included, being held to a standard of care for immigrants, nonbelievers, criminals, the poor, and the sick on pain of hell is amazing in the history of religion and government.

    It's a standard of human decency that we do not live up to today.

    But, suggesting that it came from a god that called for the various slaughters and monumental intollerance of the OT is more than just jarring. It doesn't even slightly match.

    (You should apologize for your last paragraph.)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you claiming Tesla was infallible ? Regardless .. It is not surprising that Einstein did not get everything right .. few people do.

    But , he did get many things right.. Time Dilation being one of them, Gravity waves being another.

    You are living in some black vs white paradigm .. where "Everything Einstein Said was Wrong" or some such thing.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All you did was repeat your previous claim - completely failing to address the arguments contrary to this claim.

    Running around crying "NO NO NO NO" is not an argument for much :)
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Im claiming tesla was right weener was wrong.
    weeners mistake literally wipes out relativity altogether.
    Everything? The whole theory is on the line now that we have hard evidence, the absolute proof.
    true but his metaphysical time dilation was NOT one of them, you cant have more experience than me if you dont even know you go to lorentz.
    Like I said a tremor is not a wave, of course you will feel a jar when the planets all relocate due to the loss of a major gravity source. You can figure that out using standard gravitational field models https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_field
    not at all, I live in the real world, I dont accept wooden nickels or worship weeners made up bs. Hell he admitted it in 1929 at a lecture, he made it up! LOL
    Not 'everything'.

    Hates weener? Thi gets more comical every time I look at the thread!
    Your titanic is already at the bottom rusting and no amount of adhominem snarks can save you, not even wil, you did it to yourself.
    To late to rescue gifted
    What thing? LOL
    I dont combine space time, sorry wil.
    Care to share what you are talking about?
     
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    I think I was clear enough.

    You\r posts would make more sense if you didn't deny physics.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Yes if your intent was to prove you are not capable of defending your statements, you were VERY clear.
    Ah theres the rub, you want me to accept your wooden nickels, that the problem. Well will ole boy I hope you live long enough to eat a field full of crow for that because its coming your way in the not too distant future.
    I see more websites all the time and weener, the man who set true science back 100 years will soon be nothing more than a page in the history books of blunderville.:oldman:
     
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    you like our local not playing baseball fan, dont seem to understand the 'glaring' difference betwee denying your physics and accepting someone elses physics in place of your physics.

    Personally I like 'right' answers.

    Those who cant see past their noses pretend that denying their brand of physics is denying all physics. But thats fine because they flush their credibility in the process.
     
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    I don't recognize anything I have to defend.

    I certainly do not have to defend physics.

    You're the one declaring physics to be absolutely and thoroughly wrong - but you have no evidence of any kind.
     
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    :deadhorse::deadhorse::truce::truce::truce:






     
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    Well, you're denying all physics of the last 50 years at least.

    So, I'm satisfied with my post.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    You know what they say about unsupported 'opinions'........
    Everything I argued is supported by hard empirical evidence, posted previously, so you be my guest and feel free to rooty toot toot any way you like.
    Signed: ~Koko in the catbird seat! :winner:
     
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    He was in his 70's when he made that quote.

    By then, he had worked for a lifetime depending on pre-relativity theories.

    With the limited experiments that demonstrate relativity at the time, he just wasn't ready to move forward, basically junking so much of his life's work.

    As it turns out, space is not filled with a gaseous substance as Tesla believed.
     
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    Yeh its tough when you develope a radio system that can transmit through to the other side of the earth with only a few watts and the government shuts you down in favor of weinersteins metaphysical religion.
     
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    If true, you would have cited it.

    But, as it turns out you've got zip.

    You get credit for doing pretty well in the truly disgusting ad hom department, though!
     
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    feel free to actually read the thread wil.
    maybe consider changing your moniker to wilreadless?
    if you want to jump into the discussion after all the points have been proven at least have the courtesy to review the previously cited and posted material first, no one wants to read someones wallowing around aimlessly.
     
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    Please remember to cite!

    Are you talking about his "teleautomoton" torpedo that was nixed? WWI telecommunications security? The radio tuner lawsuits v. Marconi?

    You have a pattern of making outrageous claims, but fail to cite what you're even talking about.
     
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    I've never seen you even go so far as offer a rational argument, let alone have you ever proven anything.

    When you make a claim, CITE it.
     
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    and you never will if you continue to refuse to READ citations posted.
    nice admission of guilt
    please remember to read the citations I made, so you can at least conjure up an argument and stop wallowing around aimlessly.
     
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    You made a claim in your post #338.

    Are you going to cite that?a
     
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    sure after we are done with gifted's warping space and warping time, you butted in now help gifted out and tell us how space can warp? :rolleyes:
    (and dont forget not to read the citations I posted that state that neither space nor outer space actually warps)
     
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    Just like your mind can warp .. now you enter the 4th dimension - where space and time are flexible - an interwoven fabric - of many properties - some of which the "Weenies" as you would put it .. are beginning to discover.

    Be -all you can be jo jo - was a man who - how does that Beatles song go ?
     
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    “Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”
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    You posted this already .. I like Tesla - but you have still yet to find me a cubic meter of empty space in the Galaxy - and trying to demonize a weenie will not change this fact.
     
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    I see no fact, I see no proof, feel free to post your comprehensive investigation of every cubic meter in space that proves your claimed "fact".
     
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    You are projecting again - and spewing false narrative. You are the one that made the "empty space claim" - It is a fact that you have yet to be able to find one cubic meter of this space - in the entire Galaxy.
     

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