Electrical Engineers

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  1. Kranes56

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    That's actually a really sad statistic. I'm sorry so many people died in this pandemic, just in the US alone.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Not really as they tend to ignore evidence that does not fit their narrative.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most professions are dependent on other professions and we cannot get along without them, including your electrical equipment. They would not exist without engineers of other disciplines.
     
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    If I had to be stranded on a deserted island, I would prefer to be stranded with engineers.
     
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    The electrical engineering section was set off to one side from the rest of the University of Missouri engineering school There was a sign on the door which read "Silence Please. They think they are the only ones here".

    I did not understand the sign at the time. I do now.
     
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    I would pick Ted, just down the street. He has only a high school education, but he can fix, build and grow just about anything.. Don't overestimate IQ or education.
     
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    Glad you’ve had a change of heart. :)

    You used to only care about how Cuomo made you feel.

     
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    That's pretty pathetic, not going to lie. Nice try though.
     
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    I thought it was pathetic when you posted it. Glad you think not caring about nursing home residents dying alone is pathetic now as well. Perhaps there is hope for society after all! :)
     
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    Or maybe you can stop taking my ideas out of context. Would be a nice start.
     
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    I intentionally provided the full quote of your post. That way the context is clear for everyone. I did not edit any content or change the context of your post.

    When you say things like that on a public forum with quote functions you should expect to have to deal with the consequences of such statements.

    You are the second poster in two days to whine about having their own posts discussed and quoted. Odd.
     
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    You're right you didn't misquote. But you just took it out of context. I am mourning those lives. But it's more difficult for me because it's harder to make a connection. OP made a connection so it's more relatable. It's no different than mourning the 550,000 who did die and feeling little to that number because it's abstract. 550,000 people died, what's the connection to me? Simple as that.
     
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    In this particular case you are using statistics to take two items for comparison in order to make one seem worse than it actually is. The lie is in the fact that neither one has anything to do with the other. But by making the comparison you are drawing lines between them. Even though, again, one has nothing to do with the other. Its the same thing that white racists do when they compare race with crime whenever they point out that blacks commit more crime per capita than whites. Race has nothing to do with crime. Its an equivalency comparison fallacy.

    False equivalence - Wikipedia

    In this case the only "shared trait" is the numbers.
     
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    And most years more people die of of cancer than of covid...
    Same us also true of heart disease.
     
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    I was gonna pipe in with stats on heart disease and medical malpractice, ...but then I remembered those are all 'covid' now, so nvm.
     
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    There is no logic in a random occupation’s active participants being more relatable than a specific vulnerable demographic doing the lion’s share of dying. Nursing home residents account for 1% of the US population but 34% of Covid deaths have been in this small population. The median age of electrical engineers is 44.2 years. The under 50 years of age US demographic only accounts for 5% of total Covid deaths.

    I guess if it’s easier to sympathize with workers in a random occupation with a very low risk of dying at least you can still sympathize with some demographic. I’ll never understand, but I’ll accept your explanation.
     
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    Because if you remember that thread, I have no connection to that population. My grandma has already passed away from a disease I will most likely die from as well. I can't empathize with that. Electricians? I have friends who are electricians. I would miss them a lot if they had Covid and died.
     
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    I don't see the point.
     
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    Especially those who buy into so many official conspiracy theories.

    Those who buy into the claim that HCQ and Ivermectin are not successful therapies against Covid are the best current example.
     
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    I think that you are complaining just to complain. Trying to force an argument that just isn’t there. The average American city is around 500,000 people, not counting the suburbs. The number of people who have died of COVID 19 are about the same number of people who occupy a typical American city.

    Magnitude is the only parameter that I was highlighting in the OP.
     
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    Why pick something as vague as the number of electrical engineers? There are probably thousands such professions that could be compared and most people have no concept of how many are in that profession. Comparing it to a city makes sense. I have done that myself
     
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    I was a physics major. I thought the engineering schools were too narrowly focused. You can see it in the field, as engineers, as a demographic, are notorious for their tortured grammar and misspellings, their fractured historical and geographical knowledge. It is the primary reason that technical writing has become such a profitable profession.
     
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    Half of everyone I know is an engineer of some kind.
     
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    Oh, ok. It isn’t that you care much for others or human life. Your concern is actually for yourself—how loss makes you “feel”.
     
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    I believe from past posts it has much to do with Bio..
     
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