Why no clinical trials for pregnant females and children? Remember Thalidomide?

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  1. Ray9

    Ray9 Well-Known Member

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    Why are there no clinical trials for Covid vaccines? Especially for pregnant women and children? What is going on here? The old likely would be less affected by a concoction that for the first time in medical history interfaces with the human genome and at the very least they would lose less life years. But children are devastatingly vulnerable to an engineered virus and a fabricated vaccine designed to control it.

    Are people just going to stand by and let world governments make Frankenstein's out of their children with vaccine passports to go to elementary school and get into college? Does anyone remember Thalidomide? No clinical trials and horrible birth defects.

    Thalidomide: the tragedy of birth defects and the effective treatment of disease - PubMed (nih.gov)

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...ects&qpvt=thalidomide+birth+defects&FORM=VDRE
     
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    There are no clinical trials for ANY drug on pregnant women - it is considered unethical because of the potential unknown teratogenic effect, Thalidomide put the scare into everyone, When we use medications for pregnant women it is often “older” varieties of drugs because it is a known risk.
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    Many women though are volunteering to go ahead with vaccination even if they know they are pregnant because again the risk of Covid outweighed the risk to themselves and the unborn
     
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    Apparently the second and third homes of politicians outweigh the risks of possible reproductive cell damage to women of child bearing age. Big Pharma is pushing these vaccines hard and they have been spreading lobbying gold around Washington for decades. Females are reporting menstrual abnormalities which is a red flag for the possible disaster of birth defects. Google and other sites are playing it down because they are propaganda ministries of the government. We are on our own here and trusting government is a fool's errand.
     
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    Pregnant women have given birth to more killer cops than any other segment of our society. Why won't 60 Minutes do a story about that?

    /sarc

    So everything about race and sex now. Why can't we all be friends?
     
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    No this is worldwide that pregnant women are excluded from drug trials - hint I am posting from Australia

    as for the vaccine interfering with menstruation - can you supply a physiological reason why this should be so? I can happily tell you there is none and if women were that concerned why have they not reported the issue to VARS? Anyone can report a possible side effect you know
     
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    I am old now but if I were young I would come to Australia because it is such a beautiful country. The Covid Vaccine interfaces with the human genome. It changes the human forever. There is no turning back. There are no experts that have any idea what will happen to children inoculated in this way. Too late will be too late.
     
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    No it doesn’t. A good half of the vaccines are made not with MRNA but with an adenovirus and one that we have been using for decades for other vaccineS
     
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    I just had the second vaccine last Thursday and went through two days of sickness,...my body wracked with fever, chills and muscle spasm and pain. I'm actually shocked we would invite that onto a pregnant woman. I went into early labor with my first child went I had the flu with those symptoms. My mother also delivered my brother early when she came down with fever and chills .
     
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    Pfizer announced on February 18,2021 that they were conducting clinical trials on 4,000 pregnant women, they had previously announced that their mnra vaccine was safe for lactating mothers.
     
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    Where does it say in your source that the mRNA vaccines change the human genome (DNA)? You shouldn't speak of things you don't understand. The mRNA vaccines don't even enter the cellular nucleus where the human genome resides. They make the spike protein in the cell's cytoplasm, then degrade. No, they are not gene editing tools (for this, you need another tool called CRISPR-Cas9). And no, they will do nothing to children's DNA. This is a conspiracy theory with no scientific bases. Sure, you'll find sources saying so (this one doesn't) but those are the conspiracy theory sources, a.k.a. junk science. Real science doesn't say what you are saying it does.
     
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    Which one? Your source talks about multiple vaccines. And again, your source doesn't say what you are saying it does. And no, there is no issue with the reproductive system. You are obviously a lay person who allowed yourself to be persuaded by conspiracy theories and junk science.
     
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    Your question is relevant, and your allusion to the thalidomide experience is also relevant, as it describes the great lengths Pharma has gone to in days gone by with dangerous drugs.

    But you seem to have missed the point that as we speak tests on infants ARE being conducted, and numerous pregnant women have volunteered to be tested. Month old VAERS data shows that more than 60 such test subjects lost their pregnancy because of the drug.
     

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