Christianity and Homosexuality

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    Having nothing to do with biology or evolution. You can not demonstrate a designer exists.
     
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    Similar genetics is supporting evidence of evolution. You can. It demonstrate a designer exists so you can not claim anything was designed.
     
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    When we see artwork, like a painting, we know there is an artist who painted it.
     
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    It had nothing to do with biology or evolution or the fact you can not demonstrate a creator exists.
     
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    when we think of an amazing all powerful God... we think it must not of been created then?
     
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    Cars who are made by the same designer have similarities.
     
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    Anyone can find out that there is a God from looking at the creation all around them.
     
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    God is self existing.
     
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    Then everything else can be self existing and doesn't need a designer, which totally blows your argument for a designer
     
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    Everything has an order and a purpose. It's absurd to say that there's no God. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/god_is_amazing.htm

     
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    It absolutely supports evolution.
    We share similar life cycles, some underlying biology and a lot of DNA; 99% based on sequencing of the chimp genome in 2005.
    Humans and chimpanzees had a common ancestor.They are our closest living relatives.
     
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    One typical "proof" given for ape-to-man evolution is that chimpanzees and humans have very similar DNA. In previous DNA studies, based on only portions of the chimp genome, scientists announced that humans and chimps were 98-99 percent identical, depending on what was counted. After completing the mapping of the chimp genome in 2005, evolutionists are now hailing the result as "the most dramatic confirmation yet" that chimps and humans have common ancestry. Their overwhelming "proof" is the finding that the genetic difference is 4 percent-which is interesting proof, because it's actually twice the amount that they've been claiming for years.
     
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    Proabably closer than Sam or his Ego....LOL!
     
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    Then what is your problem with realizing marriage is in the Bible as a man and a woman join as one flesh?
     
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    Well, all we have to do is look at the leftist liberal Democrats in our major liberal cities over the past year with the rioting. We have had liberal atheist politicians stating it's a summer of love while buildings burned down, police shot and killed and rapes going on. Leftists (communists) simply can change the morality of a society because there is no higher authority than the state elitists. It's not okay for a police officer to shoot a black person while committing a crime. But, it's perfectly fine for anyone to shoot and kill a policeman. That has become approved due to critical race theory and the 1619 nutjob project. All because they believe their is no moral law of God.

    Gay people be gone against? Against what? Strange phrase. As far as if adults consent to homosexual acts it hurts no one. That's your opinion. But, their are children often involved at some point. It hurts their understanding and knowledge of the laws of God. And, we all remember the HIV-AIDS epidemic in which gay men were the primary spreaders to heterosexuals through blood, saliva etc...... Then, there are those who are being forced to bow down to the wishes of gays to bake wedding cakes for them at the infringement on their religious beliefs. It's also noted that 50 years ago, about 3% of the population was gay. Now, it's about 15% for GenZ's. How is that possible? Bad moral decay of society because gays aren't just being closed about their perversion and are influencing children to be gay or transgendered. We are moving towards the fall and decline levels the ancient Romans had right before their demise. Gays weaken society.
     
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    Original Hebrew Text? LOL! Even in Hebrew, the understanding is a man and woman leave their parents and join as one companionship. That is what marriage is. Unless you are wanting to cancel "marriage" as well as other definitions of words? Biblically, marriage has always been between a man and a woman. Or, a man and many other women. But, never a man and a man or a woman and a woman. That has always been classified in the Bible as vile lasciviousness.
     
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    So is Judaism and other religions. Religion is a set of beliefs including the relationship of individuals and groups with their god. Therefore, religion isn't made by anyone.
     
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    What Judaism teaches about God is not biblical. https://answersingenesis.org/world-religions/what-are-differences-between-judaism-and-christianity/

     
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    Proofs are not the currency of science. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof.

    The difference between chimpanzees and humans due to single-nucleotide substitutions averages 1.23 percent, of which 1.06 percent or less is due to fixed divergence, and the rest being a result of polymorphism within chimp populations and within human populations. Insertion and deletion (indel) events account for another approximately 3 percent difference between chimp and human sequences, but each indel typically involves multiple nucleotides. The number of genetic changes from indels is a fraction of the number of single-nucleotide substitutions (roughly 5 million compared with roughly 35 million). So describing humans and chimpanzees as 98 to 99 percent identical is entirely appropriate.
    (Chimpanzee Sequencing 2005)
     
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    Have nothing to do with biology or evolution or the fact you can not demonstrate a creator.
     
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    No they can’t, as you can not demonstrate a creator exists.
     
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    When we observe order-say twenty Coke cups lined up in a row-we know there was an "orderer" who set them up that way. When we look around at the universe at things not made by man, what do we see? We see creation, design, art, and order. So if everything man-made has a creator, designer, artist, or orderer behind it, why would we not think that there is a Creator, Designer, Artist, and Orderer behind the universe?
     
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    Why is it that when we look at Mount Rushmore, we don't say, "Wow, erosion is an amazing thing! Look how it formed the heads of four presidents of the United States"? We realize that would be a foolish statement. Whenever we see creation, design, art, or order, it's obvious that there was some intelligent force behind it to make it happen.
     
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    In addition, even if the difference is only 4 percent of the 3 billion base pairs of DNA in every cell, that represents 120,000,000 entries in the DNA code that are different! In our DNA instruction book, that's equivalent to about 12 million words-so that seemingly small percentage has a tremendous impact. Men and monkeys also have another fundamental difference: humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes while chimps have 24, so the DNA isn't as similar as you've been led to believe.

    More importantly, this claim of evolutionists makes a huge assumption. What is the scientific basis for assuming that similar DNA means a common ancestor? When you see a biplane and a jet-which share common features of wings, body, tires, engines, controls, etc.-do you assume that one must have evolved from the other naturally, without a maker? That's illogical.
     
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