Christianity and Homosexuality

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    In the very first chapter, you'll see that Jesus has two natures: a divine nature and a human nature ("the Word became flesh"). His divine nature created the universe and is holding all things together right now-including me, you, and everyone we love.
     
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    Working in the field of microbiology - I am aware of the difference. Small mutations over time add up - eventually to a new species .. in a process we call "Evolution" :) Micro being small changes .. Macro being those small changes added up.
     
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    Right - so how come you hate his teachings so much ?
     
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    It takes no faith to believe in something that has been substantiated by 160 years of empirical experimentation and consistently explains the phenomena that we observe in the world without having to call upon faith to defend its validity. So no, it does not take more faith to believe in evolution,but it does take critical thinking.
     
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    Never met Jesus myself -and nor did any of the folks that wrote the Gospels .. The question of the nature of Christs divinity was heavily debated "within the Church" - many different perspectives - for 300 years after the death of Jesus.

    Then Lord Constantine - Pontifex Maximus - emissary between Man and God - usurping the position of Jesus - like the Popes used to do - and like you do - declared that Jesus was "Homoousios" - sharing the same substance as the Father. - and that was that. Eusebius refused to sign and was banished .. but he relented and signed .. wanting to keep in the good graces of the Emperor and all.

    This unholy Emperor - Blaspheming the name of Jesus - ushered in the 1000 years of horror .. but even after Constantine the Church still fought over the nature of Christs divinity for another 3-400 years - Rome was controlled by Arian Christians from the 5th to the 8th century. Then came Charlamange .. and to the winner goes the spoils .. and who gets to determine doctrine.

    Glad you have it all sorted out - having that free pass through judgement and all - for those who Idolize Martin Luther .. and worship his teachings.

    Myself - I have been baptized twice - figure that should count for something .. :juggle:
     
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    Exactly, and how that happens is unclear.

    Well, it's not the only way obviously. Half of Europe has same sex marriage, and every other Western nation does too. And they did it without having to "get out of the business."

    Your "TEMPLES?" What church are you part of?

    When did I say that I had a problem with that?
     
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    How is this relevant to what the Bible says about when two people are married?
     
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    Family trees didn't exist back then so there wasn't overlap in their family tree. There also was no one else for them to marry early on, and the reason it became forbidden later on wasn't just because of genetics but moral and relational reasons.
     
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    you can not demonstrate this to be true
     
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    Not a demonstration of a god existing. It’s a quote from a book of fiction. No different than Harry Potter and the sorcerers stone.
     
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    Yes, but you agree that they would have had to have married each other?
     
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    There was no one else for them to marry, and they wouldn't have married their parents. Acts 17:26-31

    From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’ “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead
     
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    Nature is proof that there is a God. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/is_there_a_god.htm

     
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    The proof of God is right in front of people but they see what they want to see. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/is_there_a_god.htm

     
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    The Bible says that Jesus is God. Jesus fulfilled all of the messianic prophecies. https://reasonsforjesus.com/10-bible-verses-muslims-take-out-of-context/

     
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    It takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God. https://seanmcdowell.org/blog/does-it-take-more-faith-to-be-an-atheist

     
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    The teaching that Jesus is the Father and that Jesus is not God are not in the Bible. https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_324.cfm

     
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    Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit are the Godhead. John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
     
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    Right .. but this is not the God you worship - saying the "The Father" is a pagan God and so on .. so which God do you worship or are you an atheist ?
     
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    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    The Bible mentions the Trinity in Colossians 2:9 and John 10:30. John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
     
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    Anyone worried about atheism should be more concerned about creationism. Creationism can lead to a crisis of faith when people discover that its claims are false and its tactics frequently dishonest.
    A prime example is the site you get your information from concerning science, creation.com.
     
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    Evolutionists interpret science to see what they want to see.
     

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