Patriot Party member arrested at Chandler school board meeting

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  1. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    Considering the RWNJs objection has to do with race, your bullshit assertion just ran off into the proverbial ditch.

    I know critical and analytical thinking isn't part of the cons playbook, but you should really give it a try sometime...
     
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    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    He did just exactly that. Wanna take a bet on whether or not he'll be allowed to return?

    PS - idiocy could be terminal if he tries it. Arizona po-po ain't exactly known for their tolerance.
     
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    Total nonsense. The race of the people involved in this incident is irrelevant. Just because he's protesting critical race theory doesn't mean that plays a role in his arrest here.

    Your line of reasoning here is a joke and reeks of desperation.

    lol....I seriously can't believe you tried to equate the two. You have nothing. Don't defend the indefensible, it was absurd to inject race.
     
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    There is no CRT curriculum in that public school system. He was ranting over nothing. A lie.

    CRT isn't being taught to children.
     
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    I'm pretty sure disorderly conduct during a meeting can result in trespassing when the offender refuses to leave. School districts typically have their own rules, so your citation of state law isn't necessarily definitive.
     
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    Based solely upon the limited information from the video, I will predict that any charges resulting from this incident will be dropped. And that, if he chooses to pursue it, he will win the lawsuit and/or agree to a monetary settlement.

    The police are bound to the law. That doesn't mean they won't violate your rights, or try to intimidate you into surrendering them. Regardless, your rights persist, unless they kill you while violating them.

    In this case, this person was physically in a place he was allowed to be, non-violent, and engaged in a first amendment protected activity. Regardless, he complied with his arrest, and did not resist. He has video of the entire incident. Unless there is more to the story than has been entered into evidence thus far, he has a strong civil rights action against the police agency. His first and fourth amendment rights were forcibly violated, at the very least.
     
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    This is just one example of a nation-wide truly grass roots effort to expel CRT from the schools. Will it work? I don't know. But just maybe the long awaited conservative counter revolution is here.

    Here, for your entertainment, is a video of a different school board meeting on the same topic:

     
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    1619 Project surely is (Biden's department of education is offering grants to schools to add this curriculum) which is a byproduct of CRT. Even CRT is stating they are working to refine their higher education curriculum for primary and secondary education.

    He's not ranting over nothing. This is a real concern of progressives trying to rewrite history and add CRT to our children's curriculum.
     
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    This person was not allowed into the meeting, he was outside. He could not disrupt the meeting from where he was. Public facilities can impose extra rules upon you when you are granted access to restricted areas. For instance, you can be required to silence your phone, not talk, etc. when entering a courtroom. You can not be trespassed from areas open to the public at publicly owned facilities, i.e. parking lots, lobbies, etc, unless you commit a crime there, are asked to leave by someone with authority to do so, and subsequently refuse.

    I'm curious. What about this person's behavior, to you, justifies him being forcibly arrested and jailed? Is it just that he is regarded a "RWNJ" by the OP, and you agree?
     
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    Never mentioned his race, and his being a cousin-humpin' peckerwood IS irrelevant. The fact that he was pitchin' a Karen-level bitch over how race might be taught to schoolchildren is NOT.
     
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    In the article, the person was asked to leave because they were creating a disturbance, they refused, and hence arrested.
     
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    Way too straightforward for some...
     
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    And, how is that incorrect? Those of your ilk ALWAYS bring up race when you're completely disparaging a whole group of people.
     
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    Yet, these same people who are saying this guy was acting foolishly are also the same people who condone the same actions from the left!

    Oklahoma House comes to a halt as group fills gallery, protests bills moving through Capitol

    This is acceptable but the the individual in the OP is not. Glaring hypocrisy. But no worries, will will have the "whataboutism" thrown in here in 3....2....1
     
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    He'll pay a small fine and that will be that. Unless some rabid lawyer gets ahold of him and creates more drama.

    Here's the thing. Pardon my drama, but I want everyone to see it.

    CRT is not being taught to K-12 kids. Not happening. Can't happen. May as well accuse the Democrats of teaching particle physics to 7th graders.

    Wanna know where CRT is being taught? Here. The slimy NYP tells you how.

    Website tracks where critical race theory taught at US schools (nypost.com)

    Before you go and track your state - CRT is taught right here in Reno, at the University of Nevada, but nowhere else in the state - this is from the Post article, which is highly negative toward CRT.

    Criticalrace.org, created by William Jacobson, features a state-by-state list of more than 200 colleges and universities promoting critical race theory — which he describes as “a radical ideology that focuses on race as the key to understanding society, and objectifies people based on race.”

    “The website is a resource for parents and students who no longer can assume they will be left alone,” Jacobson told Fox News. “The entire ideology of CRT and ‘anti-racist’ training is that ‘silence is violence.'”

    He added, “As we head into college application and selection season, we need to get parents, in particular, to focus on CRT that will be forced on their kids.”

    Bold mine. CRT is college level material. People that don't realize this don't know what it is.

    I don't know how the lie that CRT is being taught to children started, but the results are troublesome, as this incident shows.

    Critical race theory is an academic study focusing on the influence law and government has had on racial minorities in this country. It's obviously something to be found in academia, not the 5th grade classroom. And the history cannot be ignored. From slavery to Chinese exclusion laws to Japanese internment, Jim Crow...Operation Wetback would be a stretch, but you get the idea.

    Studying the effects of these institutions does not amount to "white man bad."
     
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    So, the school board was holding a open to public meeting, and kept out those that have a different political opinion. How very liberal of them!!!

    According to one of your articles. The school board limits attendance for their meeting to 30 people. Yet, also states that Steve Daniel's live stream, shows the parking lot being blocked by numerous police cars, and the gate closed. So, no one was allowed in that particular meeting. It also states that those that can not get into the meeting could wait in the lobby or out front where the meeting would be broadcast. Obviously, that policy was not inhered to either. Steve Daniels was on public property that is paid for my the citizen's tax dollars. He was there to attend a open meeting, but was not allowed, and was arrested for following the guidelines dictated by the school board. Yet, he has been charged with criminal trespassing. If that charge is not laughed out of court, the Mr. Daniels should sue the police and the school board members. It is not a crime to be on public property during an open meeting. Further, since Mr. Daniels was outside the building, he obviously could not have disrupted the meeting.

    Now, about Critical Race Theory has absolutely roots in facts. It is nothing more then a false narrative being used to drive a wedge between the races, and punish whites for daring to be born white. It is based on nothing more the stereotypical assumptions and distortion of facts. There have been several school boards that have claimed that they do not teach the theory in classes, but when the parents looks at the course material they find that the school boards lied. When caught in that lie, they claim that the material is only being offered as an alternative theory. Loudon County Virginia is a prime example.
     
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    Did it mention what he was actually charged with? I would be interested to know that. I posted the most relevant statute. A person cannot be legally trespassed (forced to leave) an area of a public property where he is otherwise authorized to be, unless he commits a crime. I cannot see the crime committed here, other than the violation of this persons first and fourth amendment rights.
     
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    I seriously doubt he'll pay anything. Any charges filed will most likely be dropped, and that will open up the arresting agency to civil rights lawsuit, should this person choose to pursue it. If he does, he will win and/or be paid a monetary settlement.
     
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    You were specifically defending someone who did bring up race. I know you didn't bring it up, which is why I said "don't defend the indefensible" .... you were defending someone who did.
     
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    Where did that come from?
     
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    Yeah, right. I think you've let your imagination get the best of you.

    Remember Kitts?



    What happened with her? Let's find out...

    Judge won’t throw out charges stemming from football game mask dispute | News | logandaily.com

    LOGAN — A judge has refused to dismiss the criminal case against a Marietta woman, who was arrested and tasered last fall at a Logan-Hocking Schools football game after she refused to put on a facemask.

    The ruling clears the way for Alecia Kitts to go on trial in Hocking County Municipal Court on misdemeanor charges of criminal trespass and resisting arrest. A trial has been set for Aug. 18-20.


    The charges aren't going to be dropped in this school board case, and if he fights it they'll really screw it to him. Reality is quite different than you imagine.
     
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    If a person commits a disturbance, they can told to leave, and then refusal can lead to an arrest. It is all in the article.

    FYI, in town hall meetings, the council is not legally required to answer any question, it just allows people to speak publically.
     
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    The legal definition of "a disturbance" is codified in AZ law. It's not a subjective thing, else anyone could be trespassed for any reason. I posted the relevant statute earlier in the thread. I do not see how any court would say what he did in the video rises to that level. As I have stated before in this thread, one must commit a crime before he can be legally trespassed from public property.

    As an aside: I have spent some time trying to use the Chandler Police open data portal to access arrest records, but it seems to have been taken down. No arrest records exist. I would like to see the actual charge he was arrested for.
     
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    You realize these are two TOTALLY unique situations, correct? Not even remotely similar.
     
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    Public properties can make rules governing conduct in restricted areas, in this case, the football stadium. They can throw you out for refusing to wear team colors, if they want to. This is a much different case than that. It took place in a public parking lot on public property. I would be very surprised, based on the facts thus far in evidence, if the charges stick.

    Forgive me for asking again, but I'm curious. What about this person's behavior in the video, to you, justifies him being forcibly arrested and jailed?
     
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