Biden skips out on joint Putin presser, will go it alone

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't expect a apology. He is to stubborn for that.
     
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    Speaking of ignorance.....I'll take these in turn.

    1- That's the lie that's repeated by everyone that has absolutely NO CLUE about Crimea, its history, the 1954 illegal gift, its 1991 declaration of independence, the subsequent invasion by UKRAINE and then lastly the events leading up to the 2014 Status Referendum (aka the vote to secede from Ukraine...again!). International monitors were present and said the vote was legit, including reps from the U.S.. There was no invasion, there was a vote to secede and then another vote to be annexed by Russia, which accepted the proposal. Now before you go all crazy since all you know is Russia Russia Russia......I will refer you to Kosovo Kosovo Kosovo. What does Kosovo have to do with Crimea you ask? Maybe you should educate yourself and find out.

    2- All the gas was running through pipelines that traversed Ukraine. The corrupt Ukrainians were ripping off the western european...read NATO countries. NATO is nothing but a collection of welfare recipients of U.S. taxpayer dollars. It needs to go. If Europe doesn't want Russian gas, they certainly have an alternate, but it's more expensive. You see, when it comes down to NATO and the U.S. supporting all these leeching turds, they spit in our face and still would rather save a nickel by buying Russian gas instead of U.S. gas. I'm actually thinking about investing in Gazprom.

    3- Putin has been getting closer to China because our government has used them like a political football for the past decade or more...and they need trading partners. WE ARE FOOLS. Meanwhile, we run trade deficit after trade deficit with China...building China up from nothing to be a global super power. FOOLS, YET AGAIN.

    4- Yeah well ya know, Russia spans 8 time zones across the northern passage....it's their coastline...so it they want to patrol it, that's their damn business. Let me ask you this: what the **** is our 'coast' guard doing patrolling the Persian Gulf. Our Coast Guard is supposed to be guarding OUR coast, not ****ing around in the ME. How about stopping drug traffickers in the Gulf of Mexico, for example.

    5- NATO's ascendency???? You mean, NATO's progression to aggression. Remember Yugoslavia? Yeah, NATO killed that country under false pretenses...fake news (as it always seems to turn out). NATO needs to be dissolved.

    That concludes your lesson for the day. Sorry but I don't swallow the political war-mongering bullshit narrative anymore. I've traveled EXTENSIVELY across all those regions in question and I see it for what it is. I'm no armchair keyboard warrior...like others with their russophobia.
     
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  3. Tejas

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    In 1999 US/NATO bombed Christian Serbs during Holy Lent to steal Kosovo to give to Muslims. Then The Hague's antichrist "international court" imprisoned/murdered Serbian leader Milosevic.

    The history of Christian Russia begins with the Kievian Rus whose Grand Prince Vladimir the Great was baptized in Crimea. Prince Vladimir returned to his capital, Kiev, and Christianized the Rus.

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    Point out where I did any such thing.
     
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    yet, more voters in 2016 and 2020, thought Trump was worse than the other candidate

    Trump lost the popular vote twice
     
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  6. Surfer Joe

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    If only he had, eh?
    Putting his country ahead of his business interests would have been a refreshing change for trump.
    But your boy trump had his head stuck so far up putin’s ass he looked like the back end of a horse vlad was riding bareback.
     
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    To say that Putin is a killer isn't an insult, it's a fact.

    An insult is calling Kim Jong Un a Rocketman.

    Do you understand the difference?

    For the rest, we will never have good relations with Russia because Putin's interests are totally divergent from those of the US.

    Relations can be normalized (as Biden is trying to do with Iran), but as long as Russia is ruled by an autocrat, the Russians will never be our friends.
     
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    That's because you think you're more clairvoyant than the American military and those of our allies.

    They are very suspicious of Putin.

    Perhaps you Republicans will find another Trump capable of looking strong on his knees before one of the worst autocrats on the planet.

    In the meantime, there's an adult in the WH.

    At least until 2028.
     
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    Being on the same stage also let’s people see them side by side and that’s never a good look for Biden. And it makes it harder for questions to be pre screened in a controlled environment to protect Biden.

    Putin is a killer though.
     
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    Putin could not make a puppet out of Biden like he did Trump is seems
     
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    Agreed.

    Hard to imagine that anybody who loves America would want a return to the days of Lil' Donny the Puppet.

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    Do some people actually like the idea that Trump bowed down to Putin and became his lapdog?

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    Great move by Biden.
     
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  12. Matthewthf

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    Trump had sanctions against Russia if I remember right. How does that make him a puppet?
     
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    Super call by Joe... It's one thing to meet with Putin (needed), it's another thing to publicly appear next to him (unneeded)...

    I will try to catch this presser by Joe on Wednesday, although I usually get bored about halfway through most of them...
     
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    Please define these puppet strings. How did Russia benefit from us during those 4 years? Which policy would indicate Russia was controlling us?
     
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    OH BROTHER, LOL....So when they gonna start puttin' halos of light around his head too... obama-halo-42.jpg
     
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    When this is topped, let me know....

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    you kidding, Putin played Trump like a fiddle

    "Putin, Saudi Crown Prince high-five at G-20 summit"

     
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    Lemme see...Biden in mirrored sunglasses like the badass guard in "Cool Hand Luke"....Obama ROUTINELY photo'd with with a halo of light that would'a made Jesus jealous, and Trump....a gold-plated Bart Simpson-esque caricature. Sorry, I just don't see the equivalency you're stretching for here. :rolleyes:
     
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    True, only one is a golden statue meant to be worshiped not unlike the golden calf of the Bible.
     
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    You DO have a flair for hyperbole.....welcome aboard. :)
     
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    How could anyone miss the symbology of a group of Christians making a golden statue of Trump?
     
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    With the guy that frightens his own handlers, it is best to keep a Biden meeting secret.
     
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    Certainly can’t say you aren’t a slave to fake news.
     
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    Your use of the term fake news is as meaningless as Biden calling something racist.
     
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    What are you talking about ?

    Biden is strong. Trump was a patsy because Russia helped him. Russia has NEVER been a US ally. You all think that because Biden is being strong on Russia after they actually meddled in our electoral process that that makes him “weak” ?

    The right in this country is just one big parody. Putin has NEVER been a US ally, and he never will be. Russi is no longer a superpower, they cannot compete economically on the world stage, so why again should Biden bend a knee to Putin…because Trump did ?

    The idea that Russia has China is not because they have a good relationship, but because they have a common enemy in the US. They are an enemy because TRUMP MADE THEM ONE. Do you know why their is a =world shortage of silicone and computer chips ? Because Trump refused to trade with China, and he actually refused to allow US companies to send repair parts, or the parts to make the machines that make the chips to China, the worlds largest manufacturer of Chips. Most of the silica used for chips comes from the desert between China and Russia. China produces 2/3 of all silicone, and they also produce most of the actual chips for Intel.

    But by all means, lets just ignore that China is pissed at America, because Trump refused to accept that they are the worlds largest economy. Ironically while Trump was attacking them economically with our economy as president, he was actually getting patents for Ivanka……odd huh. America should shut out China, but they should let him in to their economy. Trump understands they are the largest economy in the world, but apparently that only matters when HE can make money…..
     

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