What good is religion?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by gabmux, May 27, 2021.

  1. Greatest I am

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    You and your fellow black-baller, @gabmux , can hurl your lies at me, and draw from this fabricated excuse-well, ad infinitum; the absence of any of my quoted words that show merit to your charges, will always be the note that rings the loudest.
     
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    St. Hitler must be your second favorite genocidal hero if Yahweh is good to you.

    Heil.

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    You have a paper bell unless you can produce the original quotes.

    Your lies just wont do.

    I do promise to quote you, if you ever put something worthy of repeating.

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  5. Joe knows

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    Simple; life does exist right, pretty sure that’s a fact. Science can not recreate life so being that the “science of gaps” can not lay undeniable proof that god or a divine intervention is not needed for the creation of life then I’m going to assume there is a god because no other way has been found to explain the existence of life.
     
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    Look again for the first time.

    Stats are real. the ever so love genocidal prick, Yahweh/Jesus, is not.

    'Atheist' Nations Are More Peaceful - YouTube

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    Unfortunately for your own reputation you are the only person I’m aware of that dubbed Hitler a Saint lol
     
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    Assume all you like, but what makes you think a genocidal god with satanic morals is a worthy god?

    Is an insecure homophobic and misogynous god of war the best ideal for good god you can assume?

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    Why not, given that the less intelligent Christians idolize genocide?

    Christians call his ilk, Yahweh/Jesus gods, and are praying for yet another genocide of man and Armageddon.

    Who is the greater fool?

    'Atheist' Nations Are More Peaceful - YouTube

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    Funny how you referenced Hitler and in your video it’s a country praised as atheist. Too ironic. Jesus bled for that comment so to each their own. Im at peace in my beliefs. I really don’t mind your slander in fact it just makes me smile.
     
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    Not according to your own video, so the video you posted must be a lie right
     
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    Actually I’m pointing out the discrepancies in your knowledge. Your video that you touted as atheist nations that were peaceful shows Germany as atheist. So now you’re contradicting yourself.
     
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    Your libelous contentions are now becoming pathetic; I DID produce your quotes, 8 of them! And when you made your truthless claim, a few posts back, I provided you with the link to that post, including those, "original," quotes (whatever that distinction is supposed to mean). And I had even copied one for you to see, without the enormous effort of clicking on my link (and also which would not vanish from a quote of that post). I was going to re-post the link, but what I just wrote, gives me a better idea: here's a quote of my last reply to your bogus claim
    So much for your PROMISE, to quote me-- ahh, but you add the sneaky phrase, "if (it is)...something worthy of repeating." And who will determine its worthiness? Well, the ultimate, unbiased arbiter of all things: you, of course! So, you will quote my reply, to argue fairly against it, only if you feel it is, "worthy of repeating." Translation, for anyone who is unaccustomed to speech of such an insincerely specious level: Greatest I am will quote any of my arguments that he believes he can beat. When I have offered a response, and he doesn't quote it (in fact, alleges that I did not answer it, accordingly), it does not mean that his, "promise," is flimsier that the paper bells he mentions, it means that he doesn't deem it worthy, i.e., it is his tacit admission that he has no good answer. Accordingly, expect more vacuous lies about me, coming from the highly-advanced, elitist lips of "Greatest" I am (but greatest what?).
     
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    The argument from incredulity creates a "god of the gaps". Gods were responsible for lightning until we determined natural causes for lightning, for infectious diseases until we found bacteria and viruses, for mental illnesses until we found biochemical causes for them. God is confined only to those parts of the universe we do not know about, and that keeps shrinking.
     
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    Firstly, this thread is NOT about whether or not Yaweh exists, or is a good god, or even if there is any God at all. This thread is about whether or not people have the freedom of religion, to worship whatever they wish. @gabmux , your thread has been hijacked by Greatest I am, if you care. But I don't expect to see anything like the complaints you raised with me, on this score, being directed against your only ally left.

    Secondly, you are rather abhorrent, apparently, of giving straight answers. You brought up this same turtle-image with me, but in which it seemed that you were saying that one god would mean infinite levels of gods, which was too ridiculous a notion to believe. I did not feel this idea was at all unbelievable-- it is not unlike the metaphysical belief of brilliant scientist Gottfried Leibnitz, which he called Monadology-- so I asked why couldn't that be true. Here was your answer, below. Could you confirm with a clear indication of whether you do, or you don't, accept this notion. It seems yours could be either a weak acceptance of the idea, or an argument that the odds were against this reality, which was also the most likely one, IF any god, at all, exists. Also, your statements that Gnostics refer to themselves as god, yet that it is only a title; that no sentient divine exists (& we are, certainly, sentient); and that if any claimed themselves to be divine, despite being "gods," they would be laughed out of the room, added to my reading of your below comment, in context, as being mostly a rejection of this idea. Yet, as I said, I can see, without all your other statements, reading this as an advocacy of this idea. Or is it your intention to phrase things so that you will always be able to argue, "that's not (the meaning of) what I said!?"

     
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    They still have failed to create life. I’ve read about these experiments and they didn’t even create all of the known amino acids. Secondly amino acids are not classified as primordial life or life at all. Definitely a protein block but not life.
     
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    You can not claim that god is genocidal. Nowhere in the good book does it say to commit genocide. Genocide is the act of men, not god
     
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    :icon_shithappens:

    Im happy you found a nice spot to get relief, did everything come out ok?


    Non-religious countries: Crime stats

    Total crimes 13.11 million
    20% of surveyed countries 1.31 million
    67% more than average 2002

    Total crimes per 1000
    56% more than average 2002
     
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    Perhaps it's just your god that does not exist....
    the same god that the so called "Christians" like to talk about.
     
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    Has not genocide been the act of men who claim to follow god?
    Have they not also committed such acts in the name of their god?
    Here is an example what your "religions" and your god has produced....

    Armed with AR-15s, the Unification movement ‘expands God’s Kingdom’ to a Texas town
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/armed-ar-15s-unification-movement-162748235.html
     
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    Im sure this will help considerably: https://10faq.com/health/diarrhea-remedies/?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=701-717-3049-1344373123&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=52913052614&utm_term=+diarrhea&gclid=CjwKCAjwoZWHBhBgEiwAiMN66c4PZE1xxe5rEP8vN1AwMgGJOkUYi9nhe1nkXfST14CcVb9I_qwmORoC4FsQAvD_BwE


    Non-religious countries: Crime stats

    Total crimes 13.11 million
    20% of surveyed countries 1.31 million
    67% more than average 2002

    Total crimes per 1000
    56% more than average 2002

    With atheisms hugemongous monumental success I am sure the doors are being broken off the hinges with people rushing to sign up! :roll:
     
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    It's a miracle the world has survived this long in spite of religion.
     
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    you have just proven your failure to recognize the difference between vices and inherent human nature.

    So do you suggest everyone on the planet except you be put into a coma so your wish to eliminate ebal religion can materialize?

    That leaves you! What should be done about the religion you are proselytizing?
     
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    I don't have a desire to eliminate anything. Where did you get such an idea.....perhaps from @DEFinning?
    You keep saying I am..."proselytizing" something.
    I'm merely suggesting that "religions" are not as useful as people seem to think they are.
    We could do just fine without them. They tend to separate people into groups as "us" and "them".
    We have enough of that going on already in the political spectrum.
     
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    Not true...you are making things up again. Please pay attention.
    This thread is simply suggesting that "religions" are not needed
    and perhaps are not even helpful as far as solving the various
    dilemmas humans are facing at this time.

    Actually....Greatest I am.....speaks wisdom.
    You would do well to listen to him.
     
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