Still contagious

This morning's newspaper in case you can't read it, it says study: vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others Delta variant as infectious as chickenpox.... So even with the vaccine you can still catch it you can still give it and you still have to wear a mask so can someone please inform me what is the point of a vaccine if it does essentially nothing?

 

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Apparently the vaccine does more than nothing... it makes the vaccinated more vulnerable.

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I spoke to my father today he is a very educated man whose opinion I always respect he has taken the vaccine so I thought to myself perhaps I should consider it and then I see things like this you still have as much virus as if you're not vaccinated so what the hell is the point? You still have to wear a mask you can still catch it so I'm wondering should I get the vaccine or not yeah I think I'll still wait a while and see what develops

 

you did not think the vaccine created a bubble around you did you? yes, vaccinated people can still catch the virus, all the vaccine does is train your immune system to fight it off better

think of it like us training our military, it means if they do go to war, they are better trained

do you want a well-trained military or one that just wings it

 

if your immune system is compromised, even with the vaccine, it may lose the war, that is true as well

this can happen from stress, excessive drinking, injury, sickness, lack of sleep, drugs, chemo, the list goes on

if your around the virus every day, your body has to fight a new war all the time, this can also wear down the immune system..... and one of those wars may eventually be lost

 

When I worked in a medical-related field... every year company nurses gave all employees [who wanted one] a free flu shot. But I never thought twice about rejecting it... and I never caught the flu. I hardly ever had a cold. Maybe my natural immune system is extra strong [in which case I wouldn't want to corrupt my body with human invented toxins.] But the real reason why... is my belief in a totally sovereign God who controls and predestines everything... and I do mean everything.

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Well evidently it's not doing much to contain the spread.

 

The vaccine reduces the instances of hospitalization, long term side effects and death plus reduces severity of the illness

I think a well tested vaccine is worth that even if you can still catch and transmit the virus

Many disagree, if you don’t want it don’t get it but honor the wishes of businesses that ask you not to come into their store or to wear a mask

 

most of the people hospitalized are the unvaccinated, we are only at 50% vaccinations, still plenty of people that can spread too

 

Well, it stops you dying

 

Listen to your father FB.
Your job puts you in close contact with a lot of people.
Take the non mRNA vaccine if you're worried about your DNA.

 

The others modify the cell nucleus directly with the long term danger of cancer.

 

I've been taking the influenza vaccine for 20 years without issue...when they start making Covid vaccine using the SAME process then get back to me.....until then, Pftttt!

 

Errr they did

Astra Zeneca

 

Good thread here! The questions you pose here were the central theme of Tucker Carlson's show last night.

If the damn things don't work, why on earth are they being required? If the various outlets of the Medical Industrial Complex have been telling lies for the last 18 months, why should we believe them now? As the facts and data emerge here in month 7 of the campaign, and they show the shots to be dangerous and ineffective, what rational reason is there for taking it?

 

Anyone who can read knows it prevents hospitalization and death.

Was that even a serious question? How can you not know this? Is this idea too complicated? What confuses you?

 

With the vaccines you aren't immune from catching the virus. Your body is better prepared to deal with it and avoid serious symptoms and/or hospitalization/death. From what I understand the data concerning those requiring hospitalization is .0079% of those infected. I don't see that as a cause for panic.

 

The last two posts, #16 and 17, are a regurgitation of pharma propaganda.

 

Or maybe they can simply understand data sets showing hospitalizations are much lower for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated.

 

Hospitalizations of people who are not immune compromised, who are vaccinated, are virtually non existent.

 

So much for the 95% effective claim.

The only real honest answer is " We don't know, but we think...". That seventy whatever percent of new cases--all delta variant-- in the one Massachusetts town having been in fully vaccinated patients should be taken seriously. A jab alone isn't going to get us as far as we hoped.

 

Part of the 95% claim has to do with the effectiveness of fighting the virus should you happen to get infected. It was never meant to be "armor" keeping you from getting it.

 

This is a new variant. It acts different than the other variants.

Luckily the vaccine still does provide great protection. Most importantly, it is near 100% effective at preventing severe illness or death. Virtually 100% of people hospitalized for Covid are not vaccinated.

Now stop whining and be grateful for science. If not for science the situation would be dire.

 

It was intended as a barrier against infection. But infection isn't the same as being a carrier. The spike protein, which is what the vaccine is actually fighting, is what allows the virus to enter your cells and infect you. But the virus can still be in your system and not infect you. And unfortunately, while the vaccine did prevent spread of the early variants of the virus by the vaccinated, the delta variant eludes this benefit.

 

Could you be thinking of it as if it was a mosquito spray? Antibodies in the body is what fights off infections. They don't prevent you 100% from getting infected. The cases from the Delta variant is the one being cited. Hospitalizations/deaths as a result are minimal. Deaths, iirc, are at .0079% from it.