Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

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  1. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    You were answered, The links are support for the answer. If you can refute them, do so. Otherwise, in the immortal word of Bugs Bunny, "Shaddup"
     
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    The NOAA shows it is cooling for 6 years now.

    C3 Headlines

    NOAA Debunks Biden's Administration Basis For The Green New Deal - Global Temperatures Are in Decline

    April 4, 2021


    Excerpt:

    Instead, at the end of 2020 there existed a 5-year cooling trend - for both land and ocean - that has extended into the first two months of 2021.

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    Other chart in the LINK

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    Darn, hard to find that Climate Emergency thing........
     
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  3. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    IPCC is by far not the best or most accurate standard. Totally useless as a proof, if that is what you intended.
     
  4. Sunsettommy

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    Links are not answers, since you still haven't posted actual answers, you are the one who is being irrational.
     
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    You are making a complete fool of yourself, the data presented shows there is nothing unusual going on, it is right there in front of you and YOU didn't address it at all.

    You make clear you don't know how to make a counter argument.
     
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    There has been no global increase in the number of wildfires … here’s the NASA satellite data.

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    Nope no climate emergency here.

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    Strong tornadoes in the US are decreasing.

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    Nope no climate emergency here.

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    Storminess has not gone up, and there’s been no increase in hurricane strength or frequency.
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    Nope no climate emergency here......

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    Droughts in the US have been decreasing, not increasing.

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    Nope no climate emergency here.....
     
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    No. You did not.
     
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    No the topic of the thread is... drumroll.....

    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    It is YOU who is supposed to post the answers, not me as I already showed you one openly in post ONE and the link in post one showed a few more inside in easy to read charts.

    Why don't you stay on topic?
     
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    Did you miss the first three words? You WERE answered. The links were used to support the answer you were given. Emptily disputing the data is akin to arguing with a stop sign. Get credible or get lost.
    I would be happy to argue with you if you knew enough to argue with. Going from this to that to the other as proofs only works if you dig deeply into this, that, and the other so you can demonstrate your knowledge, your point, your proof. When you next post something coherent, credible, and/or persuasive, should that occurrence ever appear, I would most happy to engage you in friendly debate and congratulate you on your intellectual growth. If your desire, however, is to toss empty verbiage and snarkiness about I have no time for you and thank the heavens for the ignore function. Your choice.
     
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    FEE

    The Myth That the Polar Bear Population Is Declining

    Monday, September 9, 2019

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    In 1984, the polar bear population was estimated at 25,000. In 2008, when polar bears were designated a protected species, The New York Times noted that number remained unchanged: “There are more than 25,000 bears in the Arctic, 15,500 of which roam within Canada’s territory.”

    New estimates from the International Union for Conservation of Nature show a mid-point estimate of 26,500 (range: 22,000 to 31,000) in 2015. In The State of the Polar Report 2018, zoologist Susan J. Crockford says updates to IUCN data put the new global mid-point estimate at more than 30,000.

    Even accepting the lower figure, the estimate is the highest since the polar bear became internationally protected in 1973.

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    LINK for a lot more

    No climate emergency here...

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    Tide gauges show no increase in the rate of sea-level rise, merely the up-and-down that’s been going on for a century and more …

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    No climate emergency here either......
     
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    Translation: I can't answer the question:

    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    Here is the DEFINITION from Merriam-Webster LINK

    Your replies have been read my links, that isn't a true answer to the specific question.

    You have yet to post an actual answer to the question in some detail......

    I am done here with you and your evasive dishonest "I pretend to answer" games.

    You have no idea how to make a true counterpoint that is part of a true debate.

    Meanwhile I am posting evidence that climate emergency isn't happening and with some actual details too.

    Cheers.
     
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    I'm afraid you're the one who seems to have come up short in terms of knowledge.
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!

    OK, so you have no evidence for your claim, and want me to find some for you.

    "Maroon" hardly does it justice.
     
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    Such absurd evasions are laughable. A link is to provide a reference for quoted facts. It is not itself a quoted fact. A link with no quoted text might as well be a Rick roll.
     
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    No, he was merely replied to.
    Maybe they are, maybe they aren't: we would first have to know what answer they are being cited as support for.
    A link is not a statement or proposition that can be supported or refuted.
    As they say in Japan, "It's mirror time!"
     
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    Right on! There is no climate emergency! Now the media is claiming that the right-wing town of Dixie in Lassen county is burning! More climate warming propaganda I tell you! And the people of Lassen County voted 72.7% for Donald Trump and they all know that climate change is a CHINESE HOLE-AXE!

    "We're here to tell government we don't want your benefits. We don't want your welfare!" and now the commies are saying some people have died from Covid-19!

    Trump Enjoys Strong Support in Lassen County, California

    A fire in Dixie County, California? FAKE NEWS!

     
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    Sobering views indeed, but you are being silly here because you ignored the article which posted this:

    There has been no global increase in the number of wildfires … here’s the NASA satellite data.

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    Wildfires isn't a climate event, thus can't be called a "climate emergency" It is normal to have wildfires in California and has been that way for a long time.
     
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    Actually, you apparently did not.
     
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    LOL! A one source website by an pseudonym of Zoe Phin that has no verifiable qualifications whatsoever in meteorology in TEXAS. LOL! FAKE NEWS! I can make a fake spreadsheet also!
    Fake Climate Graph.png
     
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    I know you didn't really read the post because the entire code for the chart is in there, lets see if you know how to make the chart based on it and prove it is a fake.

    Meanwhile still no answer to the question:

    Where is the Climate Emergency?
     
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    The code doesn't have the raw data that built the graph if there is any-- statistics 101.

    And the number of fires doesn't reflex the intensity, nor size of the burn area: there could be one fire that burns 250,000 acres, or ten fire that burns ten acres; a single power line could start one or ten fires randomly with each fire having varying magnitudes unrelated to other genetic factors. Did the graph of number of fires count arson fires? The Zoe graph is so embarrassingly lame --it tells us nothing, but only projects an distorted visual image pretending to be a scientific graph.

    So no idiot Texas pseudo-scientist would only count the number or fires in a single state, or country which the graph does not indicate to study worldwide climate change.

    I bet the Texas desert had no forest fires! See, no climate change! Placing the word, "NASA" next to the graph doesn't mean it is scientific. LOL!

    Amateur hour here: Zoe is assuming monocausal fires rather than a matrix of climate change variables! It is the epistemology of a five year old. But don't worry....It's just the flu!

    Climate change is making wildfires more extreme. Here’s how

    Southern Europe wildfires: A climate threat? | DW News

     
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    Now you are just making a fool of yourself since the code has the data access in it, it seems you have NEVER done this before thus you are speaking from ignorance.

    Your claims are not supporting the narrative of climate emergency anyway.
     

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