Biden won't do it, but a future U.S. president is going to have to bring U.S. generals to heel.

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  1. Steady Pie

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    :( I was looking forward to it.
     
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    They do their jobs. Point fingers at the other team, add 6,486,254 layers of rules and regulations to everything and get lit after "work".
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    He might have been (become) Franco. He had started out to be Mussolini. At least one of Hitler's apologists believe that his anti-Semitism was a matter of political opportunism rather than a genuine psychopathia

    I'm just defending from the offense of Godwinism. It's brought up far too much IMO
     
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    Trump was a young billionaire, a natural for the Oprahratti

    Half of those fake things are provably true, and the rest probably so
     
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    Except that scenario only exist in your mind. In REALITY he was the opposite of a warmonger. Do some of that fabulous "research" you claim to be a fan of.
     
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    you have asserted, several times, that "the left fawned over trump for 40 years." while i'm certain that the ny times appreciated his advertising dollars, is there any evidence that anyone on the actual "left" cared for this self promoting con man?
     
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    Agreed. I've read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and I think there are a couple of things people often ignore or omit about Adolph Hitler.

    1) First is how much his extremism of him personally and Nazis in general was rooted in the outcome of the First World War and even worse the Versailles Treaty.

    2) There was most likely a substantial sexual connection to Hitlers antisemiticism though of course it can't be fully explained even then.
     
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    Trump was fawned over by the left for 40 years. Not just Orpha. You just can't dispute it
    Time Person of the Year (2016)
    Hollywood star walk of fame

    Please

    They are all debunked fake news. But if you think you can prove one, step up to the plate.

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  9. Condor060

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    Halls of Fame
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    Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame
    Media
     
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    It doesn't matter if he did or he didn't. What matters is HIS people in the White House, people he'd appointed, Congress men and women, Senators and foreign governments had all heard the rumors that Donald Judas tRump had lost his ****ing mind. Or, seen it first hand.

    The Chinese called Milley, not the other way around.
     
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    We aren't talking about everyone on the planet. We are talking about Milley. Trump never had any discussions with him that would lead him to believe he was going to launch a nuclear strike or attack China in any way shape or form.
    Milley just came up with his own theory and called China to tell them if Trump does attack, he would give them a heads up before it happens.
    That makes Milley the insane one. Not Trump
     
  12. Dayton3

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    That's a major reason Trump is so hated by the left. A person seen as betraying their side is always shown the greatest hatred. Now, Trump was never a major liberal, Democrat, or progressive but he was a celebrity. And most people think celebrities should be of a liberal bent politically.
     
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    I say "Of course he's not a warmonger"

    You respond...
    I'm done taking seriously posters who don't even READ what they are responding to. You're on your own....
     
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    he sure does have a lot of participation trophies. i'm not sure the wwe hall of fame qualifies as an accolade of the left
     
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    Yes, pretend this was not your statement..."He's capable of doing anything that he believes would help him promote himself. Including starting WW3".

    Please make good on it, I won't miss your doublespeak backflips and your out of context replies where you butcher and delete 90% of people's post. Keep your word!
     
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    According to Milley China called him.

    I refer to "everybody on the planet" because that's how many people knew he'd lost it, that's how many people were worried about a manic US president with OUR nuclear codes.
     
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    :roll:
     
  18. Dayton3

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    I know no such thing.

    And I loathe Donald Trump.
     
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    Which means nothing but Ok.

    Sorry, I missed the point of how many of them told a foreign military leader they would let them know up front if the US decided to attack?
     
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    I think the Hollywood walk of fame star and the Times person of the year kind of says it all. You don't get any of those without the left kissing your ring.
    But he does have a lot of participation trophies
     
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    1. No argument there. Germany was arguably more hurt by Versailles than the war itself. However that might well seem only justice to Belgium and France.

    2. Rumor has it that Hitler liked golden showers. The apologist explanation for the anti-Semitism is that the Jews were just too convenient an enemy, that the major Nazis were never really behind genocide and things just got out of hand as the war deteriorated. Not for a minute do I believe that. You might kill a few thousand while not really meaning to but exterminating 6 millions takes an industrial plan and meticulous organization, Besides, they killed 7 million more who weren't even Jewish. They were diverting war supplies to run the Dachau trains right up to war's end.
     
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    Actually, it's all important. Chinese generals don't call our CoS just to shoot the breeze. It clearly indicates China was very concerned and might have been about to launch their nukes. You forget that with Mutual Assured Destruction the whole idea of how a nuclear war can happen at all depends upon the misapprehension that one side is about to attack and the other side launching theirs first in a Pre Emptive Strike is the only viable response in that scenario. Milley clearly was being called upon to reassure the Chinese and probably DID save the world.

    Let me ask you a clearly hypothetical question. (This is a discussion board, so let's discuss) Imagine that Milley had done nothing, WWIII had ensued and we are now communicating on the last wifi spot in North America (the Internet is designed to work after nuclear war, it just slows down) How do you feel about proper military protocol now as we await the Final Cloud of radioactive death as in On The Beach
     
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    Biden has absolutely no interest nor intent to reign in the generals as you describe.
     
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    We just don't agree. I wasn't exaggerating, I was turning Condoor's post back at him.

    I don't loathe tRump, that would reduce me to his level. But, I do firmly believe he is a threat to OUR Nation.
     
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    It AbsaByGodLutely does mean something, even China was aware of tRump's shakey mental state.

    Zero. Milley says that's not true he ONLY reassured them we got this, not to worry.
     
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