Introduction to humanity

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This lesson teaches us that things are not bad, humans perceptions are bad.

    Reach into your heart and watch this video. It has lessons for all of us.
    This is why the statues never should be removed. They used to be a topic to discuss.
    Gone all you are left with are your prejudices.

    Enjoy this very good video.

    We can discuss the lessons and I will be pleased to work with you.
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Yep, just move the statues.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They want to clean out all statues reminding us that Democrats owned the slaves.
     
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    It’s a good video. It’s too bad most people don’t have the patience for any videos longer than a minute, me included, but I watched it anyway
    Lessons learned
    Most whites aren’t as racist as the msm portrays
    The PC white people are the perpetrators. They are the ones that threw the rock and left deshawn without a ride home and made him make his name sound more white
     
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    We are all (or should be) ashamed about our practice of slavery in the past. But today it's Republicans who defend it.
     
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    What republican has defended slavery?
     
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    why would I be ashamed? I have no emotional connection to our history nor any sense of personal responsibility for it. History is history and needs to be understood and learned from as objectively as possible because it is precisely the emotional, judgmental and subjective interpretations by which people completely bastardize history.

    and when they take that bastardization as justification to destroy whatever they feel like and advance their political agenda, that’s when the people of today get hurt and history repeats itself all over again
     
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    Republicans defend commemorating slavery. As if it were something to be proud of.
     
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    I stand corrected. I should have said all patriotic Americans are ashamed of it.

    Clearly anybody else has no emotional connection to this nation nor any sense of personal responsibility for it.

    What the hell is subjective about condemning slavery? Speak clearly!
     
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    Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Name one republican who has commemorated slavery.

    It would appear that with all your claimed research, you would understand this.

    The Civil War ended over a hundred and fifty years ago. That is three or four or more generations away for most people. Times were very different. At that time, people tended to owe their loyalty to their state rather than the United States. Not everyone who fought on the confederate side believed in slavery and not everyone on the union side was antislavery. There was a bit of both on both sides. Some of the biggest slave traders were in the North East.

    When the south honors a southern general, it is not necessarily because he was pro-slavery. They were honored because of how they fought.

    I served twenty years in the US Air Force. Does that mean I agree with everything the US has done? Of course not.

    Fifty years from now, our descendants may look back on us and wonder how we could possibly raise animals, slaughter and eat their meat. How primitive of them.
     
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    How can someone both be ashamed of and love his country?
     
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    So patriotism can only be derived from perception of history and more specifically as it agrees with your perception of history, one based on emotion.

    got it.



    and hellooooooo, perception based on emotion, by definition, is not objective, aka it is subjective.
     
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    Calling this an understatement when compared to slavery is an understatement. And yes! REPUBLICANS (read the OP) have been the ones on this forum and in real life fighting for commemorating people who are famous for the only reason that they fought in favor of slavery. There might be somebody's friend of a cousin married to the sister of a Democrat out there who also favors glorifying pro-slavery fighters.... but I think it's pretty safe to say that this behavior is typically Republican, not Democrat.

    Sounds like you are not pleased by the position of so many in your party. At least that's a start. But you still support the same party that even today supports things like these.
     
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    Yes, conservative religious southern democrats. Looks like one party picked up three groups after they fled the Democratic Party
     
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    They are ashamed BECAUSE they love their country. Somebody who would feel shame if somebody they love is caught stealing probably couldn't care less if somebody they don't know is caught.

    There are many who, even though a I often disagreed with them, were nonetheless true patriots in the pre-Trump years. But now many need to be re-learn what patriotism is
     
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    I fled the Democratic party in time to elect Reagan.
    So our nation was founded on Democrats principles of owning humans. Glad you agree.
     
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    If your perception of history involves any view that is not of absolute repugnance to slavery the problem is waaaaay worse than whether you're a patriot or not.
     
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    The statues must remain to remind all of us what Democrats principles really are.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only slaves I recall was in the Army with me ready to fight for Kennedy.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The war was not fought to condemn slavery, it was fought by an illegal president for his own purposes.
    Democrats who claim to condemn slavery ignore their own past love of slavery. They lie by changing the topic from Democrats to other issues.
     
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    Hah! Just as I thought! You think of voting for a political party as if it were an affiliation to a cult. You will find NO Democrat that thinks that way. But you will find plenty of Republicans who do.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Biden cult is proving you wrong.
    Actually when I was in the cult, I voted only for Democrats.
     
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    Logic according to Golem: "They drew this meandering east west line across the US and everyone to the north of that line was anti slavery and fought for the north and everyone south of that line was proslavery and fought for the south. One inch north or south of the line was all it took. Some houses were on the line and it depended on which bedroom they slept in to determine whether they were pro slavery and anti slavery."

    Many, if not most tended to fight for their state rather than for or against slavery. They fought just valiantly for their state and those in the north fought for their state.
     
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    It wasn't. The war was fought to KEEP slavery. And the slavers lost! You appear displeased with the outcome.

    But you see what I'm saying? Here I am supporting and defending the Republican President, and you attacking him.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? Those who fought for slavery were pro-slavery. And those who fought against were anti-slavery.

    You could argue that there were many useful fools who didn't even know what the war was about. But they didn't build many monuments to those. The monuments being taken down are of those who knew very well what they were fighting for.
     

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