Democrats bill to allow abortion during labor

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  1. Pisa

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    That's the spirit.
     
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    “God” is the most prolific abortionist of all. Now if “god” has granted that “right” to a potential does that not mean an actual person also has a right to life? Does one right usurp the other?
     
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    Because being able to space children means that the existing children have more resources food and education. This is proven again and again
     
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    But it is a worldwide issue
     
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    CNN and MSNBC are fake news.
     
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    God is not an abortionist at all.
     
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    Certainly. My point, however, was that respect for human dignity and essential individual liberties is paramount, notwithstanding individual and group differences in mentality, principles, moral stance, religious views. My basic premise is that people have the right not to think like me, not to act like me, not to accept my opinions, not to live their lives according to my principles, not to be considered evil or morally wrong just because they disagree with me, and when a majority thinks like this that's exactly what makes a society great (including my right to butcher the beautiful English language - I have the nagging sensation that my last sentence is not exactly the epitome of English grammar).

    On the other hand, I have the tendency to be snarky, sarcastic and patronizing with all those who have the right not to be like me. Nobody's perfect. I'm working on it, but don't expect miracles...
     
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    Still wrong.
     
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    CNN and MSNBC are fake news
     
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    Having fun?
     
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    Why is our side obligated to explain the crazy stuff Democrats pull.

    You ought to ask yourselves that question.
     
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    God is a fictional character in a book.
     
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    How do you know?
    It was only a few days ago when new research was released on the 'story' of
    Sodom and Gomorah. Bit by bit many 'stories' of the Old Testament have been
    shown to have a basis in reality.
     
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    So where do YOU get your news from?
     
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    A variety of sources, but not CNN and MSNBC. I consider them opinion stations..After the last five years I trust NOTHING the legacy media reports.

    I like NPR, BBC, IsrealNationalNews, among others. Even those I wait to see if they are verified in other places I trust.
     
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    You have a long way to go to prove people with wings exist.
     
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    Who's got wings?
    But not long ago people thought King David didn't exist - but now he's found
    And many of the locations in the biblical land that were said to be mythic have
    been found, along with civilizations, monarchs etc..
    Yes, some scripture is symbolic - like when Jesus said the 'stones would cry
    out', but we understand what was meant.
     
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    Twins do not have “unique DNA”
     
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    I agree personally but others would not
     
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    You’re sure of that? At the one cell stage a fertilized egg is a single unique DNA. The sooner a zygote splits the closer to having identical DNA the twins will be, but they will never be 100% identical. I’m not a geneticist, but I don’t see how it could be otherwise.
     
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    The chromosomes are identical but gene expression and mutations within that can give rise to mosaicism as the twins develop

    Still the same could and probably does happen with our little “mini brain” that developed eye cups all by itself

    Now if you are using the criteria of “unique DNA” should you not also be concerned about the fate of IVF eggs that are not used

    https://www.nature.com/articles/news040823-15
    https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/article/17-million-human-embryos-created-ivf-thrown-away
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...practices_in_IVF_clinics_in_the_United_States
     
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    I do have the same concern.
     

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