Stop Blaming Climate Change For California’s Fires

When are you going to offer a counterpoint?

Second call........

 

Again, by getting outraged over me pointing out hotter and drier conditions lead to more wildfirees, you would seem to be claiming that hot and dry conditions don't make for more wildfires. And that's kind of insane.

That's a very strong counterpoint to your insanity. Care to address it? Second call.

And just to clarify, is your kook theory "Conditions aren't hotter and drier!" or is it "The hotter drier conditions are part of a natural cycle!". We need to settle that before we can move on. You have to pick one position and stick with it.

<Snap> <Snap> Pay attention. The topic is wildfires, which in North America happen mostly in the west. Thus, pointing out the climate changes IN THE WEST would be addressing the topic, and you would be deflecting from the topic, as usual.

 

Wildfires are not getting worse.

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". . . So, what do objective scientific data report?

As we documented in a recent article here on Climate Realism, wildfires globally are in long-term decline. NASA satellites have measured a 25-percent decrease in global lands burned since 2003. That is an objective scientific fact.

Also, U.S. acres burned each year are much fewer now – even in our worst years – than was the case in the early 20th century. This is also a scientific fact. . . . "

 

No one here expressed any outrage at that. You simply made that up.

I already proved that is an absurd and disingenuous strawman fallacy.

I already demolished your absurd, fallacious, and disingenuous nonscience, remember?

You are making baldly false claims again. It is not a "kook theory" that conditions aren't hotter and drier than in the 1930s. It is a plain fact.

Which is also a plain, indisputable fact.

No, we need to settle on which strawman fallacy you are committing.

You mean the way anti-CO2 scaremongers stick with the position that CO2 will cause an end to snow in Britain, except when snow in Britain increases, in which case CO2 caused more snow?

<Snap> <Snap> Pay attention. The topic is not wildfires, but whether wildfires have any connection to increased atmospheric CO2 (hint: they don't). Thus, pointing out the climate changes IN THE WEST would be a red herring, and you would be deflecting from the topic, as usual.

 

Trump says it's due to a rake shortage

 

When are you going to offer a counterpoint?

Third call........

 

Although I'm no fan of Trump, that's a propaganda version of what he said. His point was that there had been insufficient removal of deadfall and brush, which are the fuels of wildfires. That's an opinion shared by all wildfire researchers.

 

It is funny to see warmist/alarmists wail over a 25% of America in a drought and call it climate change, then ignore the other 75% of the country with INCREASING precipitation over at least a 50 year period, is it just weather or climate change?.... or what ever.

 

Whatever it is..... FOSSIL FUELS DID IT!!!

 

Oh yes all that sneaky CO2 that killed the dinosaurs long ago!

Now it will kill off all the reptiles soon.....

 

All the hype in the world can't disguise the fact that wildfires are down.
Burn acreage so far this year has been among the lowest on record.



National Fire News | National Interagency Fire Center

 

Follow the evidence.
NPR Busted: The Climate Change Link to Fewer and Smaller Wildfires

 

Only the hype has increased.
Sorry Gov. Kate Brown, Climate Change is Not Driving Oregon’s Wildfires
ALARMIST MESSENGERS/CLAIMS AUGUST 4, 2021

"In an article, titled “The West Is on Fire, It’s Past Time to Act on Climate Change,” the New York Times allowed Oregon’s Democratic Gov. Kate Brown to opine that the wildfires currently scorching large areas in her state are caused by climate change. This is false. Wildfires have been common throughout the West historically, including in Oregon, often burning more acres than have burned in recent years. To the extent that wildfires have increased in intensity recently, it is not due to modest warming, but rather to decades of federal and state land mismanagement leaving Oregon’s forests in tinderbox conditions. . . . "

 

I would point out that the weather satellites have been reporting heat signature anomalies in the western subduction zone this year. The weather sats programming documents the heat signatures, but ignores them because they might be fires, which they are not. Science has yet to produce an explanation for this, as well as the localized heat islands/blooms these imaging satellites are documenting. Perhaps you could explain how this is climactic warming...

As for beetle killed trees, blame environmentalists who stopped pesticide usage on forests that could have stopped the spread of the beetles and the devastation they created.

 

What makes them worse? If hot and dry don't create fuel, how do they get worse? Or do you mean there are maybe more of them? Cause that doesn't seem to hold true in the data. So, what specifically makes fires worse?

 

Then show the data that supports your assertion. If, "hotter and drier conditions" are present, what is the trigger that leads to more wildfires? The data sure doesn't support you here, as there are less fires. You said they were "worse" in a previous post and now there are "more" but data doesn't support you here. We get you "feelz" this, but can you produce real evidence of why anyone should take your fabricated narrative seriously?

 

The problem is not climate change. The problem is stupid people.
How Much Is Newsom to Blame for California's Wildfires?

Tristan Justice, Federalist

 

The Law of Unintended Consequences is universal and eternal.
Media Misses the Real Reason for Catastrophic Western Wildfires
UNCATEGORIZED SEPTEMBER 24, 2021

". . . In 1990, the spotted owl was listed as endangered. As a result, the western logging industry and the associated forest management practices essentially evaporated.

As seen in the figure below, data suggests the protected owl habitat has directly caused an increase in forest fuel load (and increased acreage burned) in the absence of effective forest management post 1990.

Fire science tells us increasing fuel load directly correlates with greater fire intensity and rate of spread, increasing the acreage burned.



Figure. Graph combining data for Federal lands showing acres harvested vs. acres burned, in millions of acres. Data from U.S. Forest Service and the National Interagency Fire Center. Graph by Anthony Watts. . . . "

 

Hard to think of a more absurd notion than the idea that people have some sort of obligation to stop evolution.

 

If climate change is to blame, why does it need so much help?
Thousands flee raging California Fawn fire as woman arrested with lighter in her pocket
By Ellen Francis

 

There's apparently been a large human role in California's wildfires, just not the role alarmists have claimed.
Second US Academic Arrested, Accused of Starting California Wild Fires
Eric Worrall
The second US academic in two months, Alexandra Souverneva, has been arrested and accused of serial arson in California. Last month California Professor Gary Maynard was arrested in a separate…

 

Sometimes the facts about climate change need a little help.

 

Piltdown Man lives on.

 

CA, before they managed their forests, lost about 4 million acres a year to massive fires.
While they managed their forests, the loss was cut to about 1/4 of a million acres per year.
Now after decades of not managing the forests, they are returning to the Old Normal of about 4,000,000 acres a year, but, now people are living there, and dying in the fires.

TAXPAYER-FUNDED CRAZY: Public Radio Co-Produced New Yorker ‘Eco-Terrorism’ Propaganda.

Not incitement.

 

1. You incorrectly state Remnick supports the views as to destruction of property advocated by Adreas Malm which he does NOT. He interviews guests pro and con global warming. You attempt to make it appear as if Remnick co-wrote what Malm said. Bull crap.

2. Malm is an extremist. For a full explanation of what he said people can go to:

https://canadiandimension.com/artic...k-dreams-of-sabotage-but-ignores-consequences

and you will find a mainstream person who agrees with global warming critiquing what Malm said and it comes from a book Malm wrote.

3. Picking out someone with an extremist view as you have Zorro to smeer all people who argue we need to do somnething about global change is no different than me saying all global warming deniers are represented by you and your views. You try stereotype global warming as a violent and extremist ideology by cherry picking this one individual. You use the same tactics others use to label all you global deniers right wing extremists and you are the first to whine and complain when that is done are you not?

4. Malm is an idiot for saying what he did but it has nothing at all to do with whether global warming exists and there are measures that can be taken to address it. In fact you deflect from the discussion as to what should be done to contain global warming to try bait people into an argument that destroying private property is wrong. Destroying private property is of course wrong for any reason and your attempt to deflect to that topic from global warming is a stale topic. If you can't debate with statistics and facts global warming does not exist,admit it. Trying to bait people off topic is b.s.

5. You are well aware smeering all people concerned about global warming as extremists is pointless and all it does is make you look like a name caller because you can't debate.

The future of this world is far more complex in detail and depth of issues than one individual calling for people to damage property.

By the way please write in how unacceptable it was for Trump to encourage his followers to engage in violence on capital hill. You do that please so I know you are concerned about violence.

See unlike you I do not pick and choose which idiots I call out for being violent only when it suits my agenda.

Next please provide your Joe McArthy list of violent global warmers you want arrested.