‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are leaving their jobs in numbers

Every time you type, you display that you know nothing about the educational system. The agenda pushed by teachers is the subject matter they teach. Not sure why all these people have the idea that there is some giant conspiracy that all the teachers are involved in. It is, using a nice word, ignorant to the nth degree. I agree that it is amazing that there are so many dedicated teachers out there still doing their jobs considering the pay scale and the level of disrespect they get from people like you.
I can save you a lot of time, just type "Lefties bad, Dems bad". That is about all your posts say in the end, and the rest is forgettable.
Big question is, instead of whining, what are you doing to change things? My guess is nothing, just complain about teachers, then vote for anything to lower the taxes. So smart you are.

 

does the truth hit a raw nerve with you? I'm sorry if you are unwilling to accept the negative consequences of your Democrat votes.

No more trying to be nice. Democrat voters are completely responsible for failed initiatives within the school system

 

When were you trying to be nice?
I was only pointing out that you are very wrong with your assessment about teachers in general. Not sure what truth you struck a nerve with, what did strike a nerve is your complete ignorance of the subject matter of which you speak about. We used to use the term "talking out of your a$$".
Your hate for people in general is obvious. I'm glad that you've found a forum where you can air your grievances with society. My only question is, what are you doing to make it better? Just complaining and whining doesn't help really unless you come up with solutions.
It would be nice if you, for example, provided actual data or evidence to back up your claims, even if it's anecdotal, but I don't see much of that in your posts.
All you do is point fingers and blame and run down hard working dedicated people. Yes, that is offensive when you are beating up on people for no reason. I don't like bullies.
I doubt you care one bit about improving things.

 

I wouldn't call teachers victims, but I certainly wouldn't call them lame either. From 8-3:30, they are working with children - in most cases between 20 and 30 of them at a time. Many seem to be suffering from ADHD these days to boot. Its more than I could do!

 

I wonder how come kids didn't have ADHD in the 50's...

ADHA is probably something Trump caused with the help of Putin.

The fact is that like the rest of America, students no longer respect themselves or anyone else - because America has become a social cesspool.

 

ADHD and other related issues have been around as long as people have. They have just been diagnosing it more "recently".
Wow, that is a really depressing assessment of American students! I agree to a small degree. One of the things teachers are trying to do is improve that attitude by encouraging everyone to participate in the class activities, respectfully, like not making fun of someone for their views on things. I wouldn't limit the attitude to students though. Seems like a prevalent American public sentiment. The internet doesn't seem to be much help either.

 

There is nothing new about it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...ficit hyperactivity,is not a modern invention.

Awwwww.......poor Trump, the perpetual victim.

 

As usual - you avoid the point completely - and no, I am not going to spell it out for you since you should already be smart enough to comprehend it.

I realize that facing up to the abject failure of progressive liberalism and the social sewage it teaches, is impossible for many folks.

 

The more I read the more I believe that nobody in the real world knows what the education system has become, not even the teachers. Kids are supposed to learn how math functions, what history tells us, what our place in the world is and how other countries around the world function day to day. Parents teach them how to think and schools more and more are teaching what to think. They aren't learning how to function in the world as it is but that it needs transforming into some wonderland that can never exist. And yes, teachers are overloaded keeping up with the mandates.

 

You are hitting the nail on the head. The bureaucracy is part of the problem. The states governing boards come up with "solutions" to problems that involve a lot of standardization, and that leads to teachers having to teach to have students pass tests rather than learn.
The biggest problem, however, is that the pay levels and working conditions are too low, and the teaching industry in general isn't attracting the best and the brightest. In fact, that's a problem in a lot of other areas, also.
The average American taxpayer wants to pay no tax, but expects everything to be done perfectly.
In my opinion, there isn't enough money (and it's being mis-used) in the government system to do everything the American citizens want. And the educational system is too loaded down with bureaucrats with sizable salaries.
I wish people would think a little more about their comments about teachers. Sure, there are some bad ones, but the vast majority are trying to do the best job they can without the compensation they would get in private industry. Too much money is spent on the upper echelon of the school systems, similar to many of the industries in America. Running people in the ground without a solution won't solve many problems., unless one's only goal is to pitch, moan and whine.

 

Hmmmmmmmmm, I thought across the US meant blue states too.

 

That's fine. I didn't expect you to explain yourself after your claim has been proven false.

 

You mean sit here and play games spoon feeding you things you should be able to figure out yourself - just so you can drag a debate off into the weeds, and then declare victory?

You got the wrong Injun for that nonsense.

 

So, you admit they're weak, since Millions of teachers successfully educated 40-50 kids at a time for centuries, and often of different grade levels.

That is the fault of your Liberal education system which has fundamentally altered the education system.

One can only contrast elementary school education today with elementary school education up through the 1960s, since the only similarity is that children are in a classroom.

Millions of children aren't even educated in a classroom and don't have electricity, running water or textbooks, but they come here and are successful.

You do realize that one of the most prestigious private schools in India costs only $689/year to send your kid there, right?

I mention that because the amount of money spent on education has no bearing on the quality of that education.

I worked as a shift supervisor at a meat-packing plant when I went back to college to get my other degrees. That was 20 years ago. Seven of my eight line-leaders were right off the boat from Senegal and Ghana. The eighth was 50-something White woman.

The packaging machines were made in Germany, so if the computer re-booted for any reason, the default screen was in German, which was no problem, since the guys from Senegal and Ghana were fluent in German, and English and their tribal language.

Some of the guys even ran the machines in German, since I'm also fluent in German and I didn't care.

The American Blacks who worked on the lines complained bitterly how unfair it was that those guys got to run the Big Machine and they didn't but then they couldn't read or write English, and could barely speak it.

I was on salary and I had homework and classes to study for and I didn't have 2 hours of overtime to waste correcting end-of-shift production reports by people who are supposed to know how to read and write English but can't.

That's how badly your education system sucks, and it has nothing to do with money.

 

I am in full agreement that the American educational systems sucks badly. And it is all the more shameful considering the amount of money pumped into it. But I will not concede that these teachers are weak or lame. Its a difficult job - more difficult than most. And the ones who can't hack it shouldn't be in the field - it takes a very special breed of human to be a teacher. I believe it is a calling.

 

But kids from past eras didn't understand the social injustices American perpetrated on everyone back then. Why look at their list of pronouns and how outdated they all are.

 

Doesn't the vast majority of workers in this country feel overworked and underpaid?

Anyway, where is all the stress coming from? I am not doubting they are stressed, but I don't know why.

 

The article says "Unsafe Covid protocols, disrupted schedules and overwork". I am sure they were frustrated even before the pandemic, and for many that was the last drop.

Six Florida teachers died of Covid soon after the schools reopened, and many others have quit (for whatever reason) so there is more work for those who did not quit. They are putting their lives in the line and all they hear is politicians argue against masks etc, but you don't see politicians shoulder to shoulder in crowded hallways in the schools. So, there are reasons, and one thing leads to another, and now they are overworked.

 

The median annual salary for a high school teacher is the U.S. is $62,000+. Not bad for a 7 hour work day, working 9 months a year, if that after you figure spring break, winter break accounts for another 3 weeks of no work. I disagree with the underpaid thing.

Let them quit in frustration. We need a new crop of teachers.

I think collateral damage from the teachers going against parents will be an entire generation of children who will no longer respect teachers, which will be a problem for years to come. Teachers may be able to indoctrinate at school, but the children still live with their parents.

 

‘Exhausted and underpaid’: teachers across the US are leaving their jobs in numbers
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~ Good riddance ! Perhaps how school choice will have a chance . Public education has been a dismal downfall of American society for decades .

 

Teachers that I know personally, spend more than 7 hours a day on the job. Some get a job in the summer to supplement their income. The big bucks, lol, comes when you are an Administrator or “Specialist”.
Have you ever spent 7 hours a day in a classroom with 27 9 year olds? Then did you spend an hour afterwards to help with bus duty? Then attend a staff meeting for the math curriculum and then having to get with the school’s IT department because your lap top is not functioning. Then respond to parent emails. Then grade some papers and confirm lesson plans for the following day/week. Then load everything into your laptop and pray that your Zoom link works for all 27 students? This is easily a 12 hour workday.

 

No.

Despite both sides of the isle doing their best to sabotage teachers and make their lives difficult, teachers have maintained the same comparatively overall mediocre education system.

In the 1960s, we were dead last in Math on the international tests. Far behind.

Or maybe not learning anything is 100x better? Ignorance is strength?

 

Teachers in many states do not have paid holiday. I guess you're in a leftist state?

And think about it. If teaching is such an easy and cushy job, why is it so hard to find people to do it?

 

If it is so awesome, Why aren't you one?

Is a 7-hour workday too hectic for you? Is that too much work for you to handle?

3.5 million.



Yep, you're going to replace every teacher in the U.S.

They usually don't quit in frustration. The hardest working teachers go to work as instructional designers in corporations or they use their technical skills such as welding, computer science, accounting, engineering, bi-lingual abilities and math to obtain another job or start their own business.

And then you're left with everyone else . . .

And then you wonder why so many teachers are mediocre and not the quality you want.

 

So? They are free to do that. Unsure what it has to do with anything.

This makes no sense. Aren't teachers in all states on salary (not paid hourly)? And on holidays, when school is closed, they don't have to go, right? But their pay isn't docked for the holiday, right? Tell me more please.