Never Trumper Jonah Goldberg recommends 3rd Party because Trump

I regret to inform you the never Trumpers are at it again.

A third party could impose some pain on the Trumpified GOP

"In 2020, many on the right had modest hopes for President Biden."

Heh, that lets you know how delusional the author is!

"The primary system is the GOP’s Achilles’ heel because it makes a mere plurality of the vote a de facto majority of the vote. A recent Pew survey found that 44% of Republicans want Trump to run again. As 2016 showed, that’s more than enough to win the nomination in a crowded field. The same dynamic explains why Republican congressional candidates kowtow to Trump — they’re afraid of his primary voters. And right now, there is no countervailing pressure within the party.

So why not create pressure outside of it? Specifically, a third party with a simple, Reaganite conservative platform combined with a serious plank to defend the soundness of elections? For simplicity’s sake, think of it as a GOP minus the Trump personality cult."

The practical effect of this is to pull voters from the GOP to a party that can't win, thereby assuring a Democratic victory. That's why I support the Green Party being on the ballot in all 50 states. Of course, it's sad that these never Trumpers are so filled with hatred and bile that they want to bring the whole thing down because these simpletons got taken thinking Biden was a "moderate."

They also thought he was competent, so they've been wrong all the way around.

 

No third party has a chance in hell of winning the Presidency. Ever. The only thing it can do is take away votes from the other two parties...

 

Well I think that's the strategy.

 

true ... too many brainwashed partisan idiots in this country ...

 

Actually, it is possible if the Democrat Party splits.

It happened in 1860 and it could very likely happen again if the Socialists figure out that the Globalists played them like the sheep that they are.

 

Third parties do have a chance at upsetting the two party dynamic. I don't really care that much because it can be used against those that I don't want elected.

Look at Elizabeth Warren. I don't think she ever wanted to be president she just wanted to split support for Bernie Sanders. I don't think Democrat politicians are into socialism.

It can be strategic.

 

Which means that you're a forever Trumper, as long as he keeps walking and talking the libertarian line, right?

I wouldn't call Jonah Goldberg, the founding editor of National Review Online a conservative, an Establishment Republican would better define him. Why do you think Establishment Republicans pretend to have a problem with Donald Trump, as he pretty much lockstep's to the pseudo conservative agenda being a New York City liberal and all?

Yet you boyz were voting Libertarian when Bush, Dole, McCain and Romney were on the GOP ticket, so it appears that you weren't overly concerned with a Republican Party Presidential loss then.

 

Demonstrating your lack of connecting any of my comments to your comments about my comments...once again.

 

Jonah, his mom, along with the “Little Elves” Kelleyanne Conway and Anne Coulter were big GOP heroes when they ran the 6 year campaign to get Clinton impeached back in the ‘90s. Looks like the GOP is cracking at the seams now....lol

 

If you can't win because the 3rd party exists, you can't win the election either.
Normally when two groups of similar though not the same aims cannot accomplish 100% of their goals alone, they team up together and accomplish some of their goals together.

It almost seems like there might be a lesson for you to learn in there somewhere..... like you need to appeal to and not antagonize these people to get them to work with you if you want to have a hope of winning or something....

 

Heh, it's been "cracking at the seams" for years.

 

Keep your libertarian posts short, wise choice...ahem...Mike. We can talk about the great things that Donald Trump has done for your libertarian movement if you like, how about we start off with the one that is close to your libertarian pea-pickin heart?
1). Devout LGBT activist

 

I would love to see a third party succeed. I think it is difficult to be assigned into a bucket with only a binary choice. Maybe the world has gotten more complicated but as a former Republican I just see very little commonality with others voices in the party. It is no longer a party of policy positions but more of one of ideology. My guess is the same thing is happening in the Democrat party. They are having their own battles between centralist and far left.

 

Trump is not a libertarian. Where are you pulling this silliness from?

 

Keep flailing!

 

You are right. It’s really nice to see.

 

So you are forever mired in the duopoly? Is the dregs of the political world what you really want leading this country?

 

Well it's bad news for my side, but it's not without some entertainment value.

 

Wait, WHAT? While I don't support Trump, calling him a Libertarian is so far off the mark I can't begin to understand where you got THAT from.

 

If you are a Republican, breaking off from Trump is good news for the party.

 

Well that's Jonah Goldberg's strategy. It's a dumb one, but it's a strategy.

 

I think that in the long run, the GOP will be better off when the stench of Trump wears off. Then they will be able to run more credible candidates and have a better chance of advancing conservative principles and agendas.

 

Didn't trump recently tell his voters to not vote in 2022 or 2024 if this massive fraud isn't cleaned up? How will that help R's win?

There is a civil war going on in the R party. And that alone could cost the gop any near term gains.

 

As the OP says, only 44% of R's support trump at this time. And I bet most independents don't. So if he is on the ticket, He loses R votes and most I votes. That's a losing formula.

 

The biggest part of their platform is rigged elections and we can't teach about history in schools if the word black is involved. They have no platform.

Repeal and replace was the biggest and grandest recently. It fell flat on it's face.