How can the Vatican justify its wealth?

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  1. dagosa

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    The Catholic Church like any religion moves very slowly adapting to science. Simply because, science is detrimental to their belief system. The Catholic Church now believes in evolution a belief that contradicts the Christian orthodox Bible study, simply by saying it is concerned with man’s souls and not their life here in earth. It’s contrary to the basic premise of more devout Protestants. Nearly everyone I’ve ever spoke to, don’t even think Catholics are really Christians.....because of their official belief in science. No wonder they reject their beliefs.

    Really, many religions Christianity or not, officially rejects science......other then Catholics. So how could one feel they are 100% bad. They have their good moments, when not rejecting women’s equality and turning a blind eye to ramped sexual abuse......
     
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    The Catholic Church has learned only how to maintain their wealth at the expense of basic things like women’s equality and sexual abuse of children. The official participation in the Catholic Church by paritioners has been decimated by these archaic ideas.
     
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    I know that strange opinion.
    I i find it stupid and very self-righteous of those fanatical evangelical fundamentalists to say so.

    Isn't it funny?
    For many the Catholic Church is too pious.
    For others it is not pious enough.
     
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    Again you seem to say that the RCC is one hundred per cent bad.
    Bashing the RCC in any way seems to be a popular game. :)
     
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    Yup...but in my opinion it’s understandable. When religion in general has little foundation based upon facts, it’s easily turned into a rejection of one over another. It’s like trying to decide if the wizard of Oz was real or not.
     
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    That’s a pretty judgmental comment
    Do you think parent thinks his child is bad because they point out their inconsistencies ?
     
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    Well I'm one of those fundamental fanatics but it's obvious that the Catholic church is Christian. Anything close to God is targeted by "the world".

    Incredible what the Catholic Charities do even in just my area.
     
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    All religions have a genesis based upon a similar worthwhile function. Before central gov there was nothing for mankind to fear of their actions. Religion instilled that fear and does today. They also provide some comfort for people facing death and suffering in “ not being alone.” It doesn’t mak3 them bad, to make up stories like parents do for their children who have nightmares and scary early ideas of life.
     
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    No one is targeted. Rejection is not targeting. Even Christians reject other non Christian religions. They are no different then non believers of Christianity or agnosticism or even atheist in tha5 respect.
     
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    Yup. Targeted by other religions, not just by non believers.
     
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    Incredibly good - or incredibly bad?
     
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    I'm not talking about rejection...I'm talking about targeting with irrational hatred.

    I know God considers the Catholic Church important simply because of the hatred it gets from the Godless.
     
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    Incredibly good!...
     
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    These statements are ambiguous to me. Muslims may hate Christians but they aren’t Godless, unless you mean your “godless” because they don’t believe in your God. It’s conflicting being a believer in any god. I never get a straight answer when asking, which god you believe in ?

    Seriously, you know what God “thinks.”
    I have no idea. Does that mean I have an irrational hatred ?
     
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    Even though the world is filled with religions ? You have a beef with other religions and not just the godless ?
     
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    I can't tell you God's every thought but I know him.

    I don't know YOU so I won't make assumptions.

    But I believe Satan is against what God is for. I also believe that people who are without God's light are easily manipulated with emotional hatred, arrogance and contempt.

    So that is where I stand so to speak.
     
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    For me, the Catholic Church is insultingly indifferent to child abuse by priests and women.
     
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    then you can tell us which God it is. Your teachings tell you to reject all other false gods......well who are they ?
     
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    I agree.
    So it has been for too long a time.
    To the eternal shame of the RCC.
    When in such cases the child molesters got all the protection by the bishops - while the victims got none.
     
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    I do reject false gods. Rejecting is not hatred. The one true God is the God from the Bible. The Hebrew God. I reject false teachings. I believe salvation is through grace not works...which differs from Catholic dogma. But I don't hate them for it. There will always be differences in dogma from one denomination to another but that in its self does not say a different God is worshiped. God has a character reflected on those that worship Him in truth whether it be Amish, Catholics, pentecostal, charismatic etc.
     
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    And the only reason I can see, is the protection of wealth in Vatican.
     
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    Basically , Christianity .

    So of the 7 basic religions, you reject all but one or two if it’s OK to not accept Christ as the son of God (Judaism)
    Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Confucianism, Christianity, Taoism, and Judaism)
     
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    The church ...no church...is perfect. I agree wrongs have been done. But being targeted by blind hatred also blinds truth. The Boy Scouts had problems with this sort of thing...and now that they have been beaten into submission by that hatred against it and they changed their fundamental principals, the targeting goes elsewhere even though the problems are most likely worse.

    Sin is not absent from any church or Christian organization as all Christians are sinners. Pediphiles are drawn to any organization where they can have access to children. That includes secular organizations as well.

    Witch hunts targeted to one entity driven from hatred doesn't necessarily produce sound evidence.
     

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