Delta Air Lines CEO ditches ‘divisive’ COVID vaccine mandate; marks 90% employee vaccination rate

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/delta-air-lines-ceo-ditches-divisive-covid-vaccine-mandate

This seems like a much more pragmatic approach than Biden's. I wonder if other airlines will follow his lead.

Let's go Brandon!

 

If we had 90% participation in vaccines no one would be asking for a mandate. Hell, if we had 90% participation in masking since the start we'd have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

Just sayin...

 

False, authoritarians will always seek to gain more power. And masks do not save lives, they don’t work.

and the vaxx only helps you, it doesn’t protect others.

as to the topic, this is perfect. It’s to bad we have a dictator in office and a bunch of authoritarians who votes for him supporting forced vaxx.

 

I disagree. I don’t think the masks are near as effective as they claim. Every study emphasizes that masks are effective in stopping the spread of droplets carrying COVID. But I still see people rubbing their face, lifting their masks, pulling them below their nose. That’s also assuming COVID is spread by droplets. Some say it’s air born and needs no droplets. Most masks worn are not effective at stopping this form of transmission. No state requires N95 masks, they require a simple face covering. Some of these face coverings won’t even stop droplets so it’s simply a feel good thought.

 

most of the protection is for you, but it also protects society as well

but thanks for agreeing the vaccine protects you

 

I’ve never said the vaxx doesnt. It only protects you and that has always been my stance. If you are vulnerable you should get it. Otherwise it’s none of your business what those who don’t need it do.

 

What would authoritarians gain by requiring vaccinations and wearing a mask?

 

I have to question the logic of requiring air line employees getting vaccinated when they people they squeeze elbow to elbow into planes for hours at a time are not required to be jabbed. 3 weeks ago I flew to NJ and back to El Paso on 4 separate flights, I've been jabbed, but not the people sitting next to me on two of those flights.

 

The fact you need to ask why authoritarians would do this is demonstrative of how trying to explain it to you would take far to much effort.

I do genuinely hope you ponder on it awhile.

 

There hasn’t been a whole lot of consistency in logic with this pandemic at all.

 

overloading the hospital system can affect others

 

So then we should shame fat people, and mandate that everyone start working out regularly so they stop clogging up our hospitals, which affects others.

hell let’s mandate no more high calorie foo, or just caloric intake period.

Mandate driving to only to work because accidents are taking up resources.

You made a dumb argument.

 

The fact that you refuse to explain it to me tells me you don't know how an authoritarian would benefit from it. Stop drinking the coolaid.

 

Fact is I do, but I don’t entertain the intellectually dishonest or those who refuse to do the research and think critically themselves. I hope you choose to think about it but I’m not bothering myself which such a thing to walk you through the logic that would go against your biases.

 

we should change the American food guidelines... we have learned that high carb\low fat is not the best diet for ones health

for people with pre-diabetes, doctors should push a low carb diet

we could tax carbs, like cigarettes

 

I agree. However we both know that wasn’t the point I made.l as neither of those are the government mandating anything.

for the sake of doing so I’ll lay it out more plainly. Everything everyone does or doesn’t do can be argued to take up resources of society to some degree and can therefore be argued as societies business. This is exactly the mindset of every dictator that’s ever existed. Justifying it so weakly is very unbecoming of someone who claims to care about personal liberty and freedom and is certainly the mark of a would be dictator.

 

we do make such laws though, by taxing cigarettes hundreds of percent and forcing businesses to not allow smoking

I am not saying I agree with them, just that the precedent is already set

 

So the approaches do what we demand or we will make it.

It's precisely that attitude why there's hesitancy.

 

We make some laws yes, so where to draw the line? I don’t know the answer to that but by your logic we might as well give up all rights and autonomy of our selves to the govt since we alrdy do to a small degree.

This administration, and the left that supports it, is the closest thing we have to a dictatorship. And it’s coming from those who have called everyone else the dictators and nazis.

it took a day to go from calling people nazis to demanding the proper papers.

 

exactly, where do we draw the line, if we can do it to smokers, we can do it to anyone

Texas wants to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, can't get any more authoritarian than that

 

Compliant subjects.

 

Texas wants babies to not be murdered, nothing authoritarian about that. The left has shown thier true authoritarian colors.

and yes where we stop that will always be a question as there is no objective answer. But using that as an argument is a weak argument and definitely the mark of a would be dictator.

we will see how quick you are to use such a stupid argument when it’s you being regulated in a manner you vehemently disagree with.

 

I feel it needs more detail than that, and history to demonstrate it. Something I’m to lazy to give, but I know this answer isn’t going to convince him when he has a biased against the right,

 

fake news, as this is ALSO Texas when it comes to actual born babies of the poor

"Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

"But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."

but we do not need to get into that debate, just that the laws also exist