Why Homosexuality Must NOT Be Recriminalized!

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  1. Cosmo

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    What color you paint your house is a choice.
    What you order at a restaurant is a choice.
    Deciding to have sex or not is a choice.
    Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice.
     
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    So much for reading comprehension
     
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    Marriage is a civil document.
    A legal contract in the United States.

    Calling on a fictitious being to justify your opinion is neither reason nor intelligent. It is the opposite
     
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    A person born with Downs Syndrome doesn't have a choice either.

    And deciding to have sex IS a choice - or all we are is animals, much like the Penguins...
     
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    Marriage was a religious construct for thousands of years before homosexuals came along and decided to start imposing their choices on everyone else. Civil Unions are State Constructs and nothing more.

    You must have glossed over the part where I said that I do not believe in a God of The Bible, one who has personal relationships with humans? I was just stating historical FACT. Marriage is a religious construct.

    The further illustrate your fallacy, explain why any homosexual would go out of their way to force a Christian baker to bake them a cake for their Civil Union - there has to be 500 homosexual bakers out there to choose from.

    I would never go to a homosexual baker that disagreed with my beliefs, to bake a cake for any marriage I might plan - simple courtesy is all it is.
     
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    To be fair, while tools themselves are not natural, tool making is natural. Many animals besides humans create or use tools.
     
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    By that logic eating is not natural because we make that happen as well.
     
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    Marriage was also a contract to transfer ownership of a woman to her new husband, for property rights, and has been used as a method of human slavery. Thankfully we do not live “thousands of years ago” we live now.

    Marriage is a civil contract now and it has been for decades.

    Marriage was actually a pagan ritual before it was religious but that too is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

    Likely for the same reasons other groups have fought — and won — equal treatment and equal accommodation.

    I frequently walk of of business that display religious cult worship icons on their walls or branding depending on the severity of it. I assure you, people claiming religious possession push their beliefs in your face much harder than gay people, it just isn’t as apparent because it is everywhere. Thankfully dying out rapidly but that is neither here nor there

    Again, what does this have to banning same sex marriage or criminalizing homosexuality?
     
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    Absolutely, tools were once thought to be a rarity in nature but it seems many animals use them.
     
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    Thanks for the tip!
     
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    Reading comprehension?
    I clearly said deciding to have sex or not is a choice.

    As far as your Down syndrome comment; you may as well compare oranges to orangutans.
     
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    My mistake

    Or "homosexual" animals...
     
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    Cultivating crops is not natural. Civilization is not natural everything that sets humans apart from other animals is unnatural.

    Appeals to nature are fallacy.
     
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    Perhaps with Muslims whom you have previously excused.

    Marriage in the entire USA has two roots in law.
    English Common law for most of the Eastern States
    Spanish law for most of the West.
    My law teacher and Real Estate teachers taught us all that.
    As to religious materials, sir never enter the US Supreme Court if you must evade religious talk.
    Also do not enter the Capitol Building of the USA since it has plenty of religious remarks all over the place.
    Stop using paper currency. It is harmful to read about God on currency, per you that is.

    English and Spanish law have common roots. It is from Rome in fact.

    You want to understand marriage laws. Check out the Roman laws.
     
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    We get to read the illiterate claims of Democrats right here and daily.
     
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    Down syndrome is a genetic disorder.
    If you're implying that homosexuality is also a genetic disorder show me a peer-reviewed study supporting such a claim. Otherwise, all you have is an unsubstantiated opinion.
     
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    Indeed telecommunications also unnatural.
     
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    When you have to lie about another's position it frequently means you don’t have one.
     
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    Says the one that doesn’t comprehend basic definitions
     
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    And again, what does any of your posts have to do with banning same sex marriage or criminalizing homosexuality?
     
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    I was speaking in generalities, and to what the majority of cases was. On the plus side yours was a marriage of honesty, in that you did not deceive the woman, even if it was not healthy. I am aware of some from that area that were also known gay man, straight woman marriage, and while they, in many cases but not all, did love each other, there was no sexual chemistry. Most of those cases, kids were planned. But a lot of men repressed their homosexuality back then, and many still do today, although not as much. I still hold that this is not deception to the woman, as much as it is to themselves.
     
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    I stated CLEARLY, and CONCISELY, I would never impose my belief on anyone else, or USE the Government to intimidate anyone that disagrees with me.

    You figure it out.
     
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    well that's simple anatomy. The anus is very sensitive part of the body and stimulating that can bring pleasure.

    I would also make the point the mouth and the Tanya are designs to intake food and detect whether or not is food. Yet we can drive pleasure from using these organs in a sexual manner as well and hands and feet and everything else.
    well yesterday I ate a part of a cow that died a year before I don't even know what part of the country this cow died of because I bought the beef in the grocery store none of that is natural. I cooked this beef on an electric stove in a metallic pot. That isn't natural. I drink chemically treated water that is piped directly to my house and comes out of a faucet that is also a natural.

    I'm willing to bet 99% of your life you are doing something that is completely unnatural.
     
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    So you do not want to ban same sex marriage?
     
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    Any religion.

    That doesn't mean that there will.not be overlaps between religious and non-religious principles, such as with murder or theft. But no law, especially in a system that encompasses religious freedom, should be based purely on any religious principle.
     
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