Charlottesville civil trial will explore where free speech becomes conspiracy to commit violence

I don't believe this is an assault on free speech. Seems to be an assault on bad behavior.
Good. Let's see how it turns out. I believe strongly in the right to protest. I do not believe in the right to threaten others or have violent protests.

 

Ummm no it doesn’t read the whole article this time. The second night he was there

 

No this isn’t a lawsuit over behavior, this is a lawsuit about speech. Maybe you can define the charges as bad behavior for me and not bad speech

 

That would be a law disposing of tech companies dual role.
Tech companies have unchecked power to censor, restrict, edit, shape, hide, alter a large sphere of human interaction but enjoy the privilege of not being held accountable for content.

Maybe you should read the content before making uneducated post. Just sayin

 

in this case it's the ones harmed on the left suing, if anyone was harmed on the right, they can try their case in court too

 

yes, Trump wanted to take away any free speech we now enjoy on social media, thank goodness he failed

 

most certainly does, his followers went there, he did not, that was the controversy, he never killed anyone

 

From my article

“The next night, Manson followers murdered Leno and Rosemary LaBianca in their home in the Los Feliz section of Los Angeles; this time, Manson went along to make sure the killings were carried out correctly.”

 

he must not of went in then, cause he was not involved in the killings

 

Both of you are incorrect and correct. Manson was NOT present on night one, but was on night two.
Double knock out! lol

 

Making sure they were done correctly definitely is being involved in my opinion anyway

 

did he participate in either though, I could have swore that he was not in the house during the killings

 

Ummm that’s what I said keep reading the posts

 

agree, but he did not participate in the actual killings, but his words led to them

 

Just having fun Joe!
Not often one gets the opportunity for a jab at both a righty and a lefty at the same time! lol

 

Touché

 

That doesn’t equate to the same as this. None of these people directed anyone to committing crimes.

 

we will have to wait and see what they bring to court

 

It's an interesting subject. Let's say I spend a lot of time and go to the trouble to convince someone that a Chinese gang is after that someone and is intent on killing them. They really get worried and scared. Then, they randomly run into a younger Chinese looking individual who approaches him. His fear shoots up and he pulls a gun I bought him for his protection and shoots the guy to death. The poor Chinese guy was only going to ask for directions, but the scared individual was momentarily inclined to shoot him out of fear of death. Would I have any responsibility for that? We've seen where there have been young people who have been charged with crimes for just telling someone "go ahead and commit suicide".
Interesting scenarios. Mostly with sad outcomes, but interesting from the perspective of human behavior and sociology. Most of the time we are responsible for our own actions. But at what point can one be held responsible for the actions of others?

 

This won't stand in court, and I'm inclined to agree with the following statement/observation:

"The defendants say they were engaging in their First Amendment right to protest, that there was no conspiracy, and that the violence was the result of police failing to keep them separate from counterprotesters."

While both sides were prepared for violence, and the local media in C'ville made that known the morning of the protests, there wouldn't have been any violence if Mayor Michael Singer and Governor Terry McAuliffe (both Democrats) had done their jobs and maintained public order, but they didn't. To make matters worse, after the riot McAuliffe lied to the public about several matters involving the Virginia State Police, who were present in the city that day, and imaginary gun caches that never materialized.



Everyone in and around Charlottesville knows the mayor and governor were guilty of dereliction of duty, and the public's anger with the authorities was expressed at the C'ville city council meeting pictured above.

To this day neither Singer nor McAuliffe have been held accountable for failing to prevent the violence in C'ville when they had more than enough agents, assets and even National Guard troops on-hand to do so. WHY they didn't do so remains an open question, but both of them are ambitious political opportunists and I believe they thought they could exploit the violence for their own personal and political gain. What they didn't count on, however, was a young woman from Richmond getting killed on account of their negligence.

As far as I'm concerned, those two should be facing a judge or jury, and I'm confident many of my fellow Virginians agree with me. The citizens of our Commonwealth are not political pawns in some game where their safety and constitutional rights are endangered for the benefit of unscrupulous politicians.

 

This is a civil case, has nothing to do with the US Constitution. Free speech does not allow someone to invite violence.

 

Civil cases has everything to do with the constitution

 

Whatever you say counselor

 

If that’s the best you’ve got then you obviously can’t prove me wrong

 

There is no such as proving a negative, a.k.a, wrong, i.e., prove you never murdered anyone.