Rep. Gosar is censured over an anime video showing him killing AOC

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    when a speech telling lies that destroys confidence in American democracy for some 70 million persons, I suppose you think that's okay.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    My bad post #234[/QUOTE]

    A link would have been nice.
     
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    His speech didn't destroy confidence. Confidence was already lacking and still is lacking. He simply highlighted what was already there.

    Democrats continue to destroy confidence by their rejection of election integrity laws and emergency measures.

    Even if your assertion were correct, he did not not advocate handling the election fraud through harassmen like Maxine did while spreading her lies about systemic racism.
     
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

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    Quote please, or something proving a congressperson suggesting violence against another congressperson or staff, which is the issue before congress.

    Either you have it or you don't.

    If you don't, dismissed.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    Well, now, why don't you go down to the repubs in congress and spread the word?
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    Nah, you're just rationalizing Trump's evil.

    Sorry, it was no where near as bad as it is now.

    No where near it.

    It's not just the lack of confidence, Trump is causing serious anger across the land all because of Trump's going around telling 70 million people the big lie that Biden stole the election. That anger swelled to a fever pitch and unleashed the juggernaut of destruction and death on 1/6.

    Trump is, therefore, a threat to US national security.

    If you can't see that, I can't help you.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    Not me, Gosar.
     
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    Dems hoping this “news” takes the headlines after their Rittenhouse flop. Not happening.
     
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    Okay, but what Maxine Waters said might NOT have caused violence?
     
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    I posted the video. I'm not going to type out a transcript and even paraphrased aspects of it. Screw you and your demands at this stage. Your APPROVAL isn't necessary in this matter. I don't need you to agree with or give sanction to my point. You asked, I provided. You dimiss and that's your problem.

    The two way street will be coming in 2022. Two of Biden's children have personally accused him of pedaling influence, being a pedophile, and the matter Trump was impeached on was pure projection from Biden.

    All this is going to be applied to the same standard and the Democrats are going to be burned down by that standard.

    It doesn't matter whether you give your approval or not.
     
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    Yes, because CONFRONTING people wherever they are definitely could not lead to physical conflict! Come on! I would expect that in your 70 years of life you would have sufficient wisdom to know why what she did was totally wrong! And do you HONESTLY believe that if it was a white Republican during the Obama administration, telling their supporters to confront members of the Obama administration wherever they are, and to PUSH BACK on them, that the Democrats and the media would have been totally cool with it? It would have been a NATIONAL NEWS STORY and you know it! The headlines would have been calling it RACIST!

    How did Trump CAUSE violence? Isn't it the case that he did not SUGGEST violence, just like Maxine Waters?

    It's either bad or it isn't. If it's NOT bad then why should she abstain from doing it in the future? If it IS bad, then why doesn't it require an apology?

    They were in a different category of personal behaviour misconduct. Republicans also police these higher levels of personal behaviour misconduct like with Steve King. When I talk of the low standards which have been set, I'm referring to the response to the antisemitism from the squad members and the response to Maxine Waters. As for the response from Republicans to similar level Republican misconduct? Well they largely condemned Marjorie Taylor Greene for her ridiculous Jewish laser comments in January and also her comments in May where she equated COVID rules to the Holocaust. See the difference?

    Irrelevant as she is not a politician.
     
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    You don't seem to be aware of the conflict between the majority of the party and Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin!
     
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    Ask Kode to link it, it's his quote from Maxine ;) I concur he is correctly quoting her word for word..
     
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    The left just can't stand being wrong.. They will fight tooth an nail making a wrong ring right ;)
     
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    No! Who is the "local leftist?"
     
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    Maxine Waters' comments.
     
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    Well it depends what you mean by "unedited." What EDITED version have you seen? I saw it inside this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=71bWY2YaIG8
     
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    I am sure they already know. Thus is just hysterics by the dems.
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    Your list is limited only to Trump. The data past the # hash tag refers only to the Trump section of the entire page.

    Remove the hash tag, please, and look again:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

    Now you can see all of the convictions, and it's quite a lot -- mostly republican, However, the wiki page refers to Congress, as well, and my list is limited to WH administrations, which, given they rule the nation, theirs is more significant.


    Because when the list was compiled (for my stat), Trump had 1.8 years in office, so the numbers are even higher now.

    The list is comprised of WH administrations.


    Here is the list of Reagan Administration convictions,

    "By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever." --
    1. Johnson, Haynes (1991). Sleepwalking Through History: America in the Reagan Years, p. 184. W. W. Norton & Co. Inc., New York. ISBN 0-393-32434-6

    1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.
    2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.
    3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.
    4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...
    5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.
    6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...
    7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...
    8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush...

    Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;

    Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States

    Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
    Frank Gomez

    13.. Donald Fortier
    Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush...

    Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence.

    Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities.

    Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors.

    Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained.

    Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer

    Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers
    Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District

    Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned.
     
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    She didn't suggest violence, only to confront republicans for their policies. I don't agree that doing that is right when people are eating, and I would hope that Waters abstains in the future.

    The meme and the cartoon were suggesting violence. Violence to other members of congress is the issue before congress.
     
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    No, the onus is on you to provide the quote. You can't expect others to do
    your homework for you.

    Otherwise, you are dismissed.

    Wishful thinking on Biden and the rest. There is no evidence. NONE.

    And, what do you care about corruption? Trump is the most corrupt president in history.

    https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive
     
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    It appears that you're partisan blindness robs you of the courage to attempt answering the questions I've already asked you concerning her inflammatory rhetoric...

    So let's try again shall we? Where does one go when they are "not welcome anymore anywhere "?

    Don't worry I know why you won't answer the question, it's not compatible with your denials
     
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    Oh, you mean just like the pizzagate meme didn't suggest violence?
     
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