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Something to keep in mind as Kyle's defenders try to rationalize his defense.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Nov 21, 2021.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like everyone there.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 22, 2021
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  2. Cybred

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    No outrage.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that’s funny!
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 22, 2021
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  4. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    And just because you shouldn't do something doesn't mean that you don't need to do it. Doesn't matter if it was his property or not. He was there to help against rioters destroying property and help medically. And yes, he had some medical training. Was he fully trained? No. But he did have some training which he was willing to use to help. Remember, he worked as a lifeguard and was working at a fire station. Both requires some medical training and they offer training for it.

    BTW, I thought it was a no no to blame the victim? His trial did prove that he was a victim. Is it because you view him as being from the Right that you don't apply that standard? Is it because he was carrying a gun? Tell me, where is the condemnation for those that were rioting? Or for the ones that attacked him?
     
    Kal'Stang, Nov 22, 2021
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  5. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Only in your mind is any of this true. Reality on the other hand doesn't care what your mind thinks.
     
    Kal'Stang, Nov 22, 2021
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    Actually you know what. It doesn't matter. He was there. He had a Right to be there. He had a Right to carry that AR15. He was not the one that instigated the attacks. Those are the facts. It doesn't matter whether you think he should have been there or not. It doesn't matter whether you think it was wrong. Kyle had a Right to be there. And he had a Right to NOT be attacked. Kyle is not the one at fault here. Period. Anything else is just spin based on politics.
     
    Kal'Stang, Nov 22, 2021
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  7. Cybred

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    Yep, he was a victim, that doesn't make his showing up at the scene any less stupid, why was he attacked?
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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  8. Cybred

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    No he didn't.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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  9. Kal'Stang

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    Excuse me? Since when does a person not have a Right to not be attacked? GL trying to explain away such an absurd comment.
     
    Kal'Stang, Nov 22, 2021
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    Irrelevant. He had a Right to be there. And he had a Right to not be attacked.
     
    Kal'Stang, Nov 22, 2021
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  11. Cybred

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    Their entire life.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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  12. Cybred

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    No he didn't.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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    you’re saying a crowd of people had the right to attack another American? And why is that?
     
    Buri, Nov 22, 2021
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    He didn’t have a right to not be attacked? Your opinion is dangerous supporting criminal rioters. People like this agree with rioters that the rule of law does not matter.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 22, 2021
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  15. Cybred

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    Nope.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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    No he didn't. No they don't.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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    Can you give the cops a list of the people who don’t have the right to safety? May I ask how you’ve randomly decided who has rights to live and who doesn’t?
     
    Buri, Nov 22, 2021
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    Thinking you have a right to not be attacked at a riot is like entering a burning building and thinking you have a right to not get burned.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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    Every single living being that exists.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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    The law and civil society disagrees with your dangerous notion.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 22, 2021
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    Is it not a bit early for drinking on a Monday?
     
    Buri, Nov 22, 2021
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  22. Cybred

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    So if I walk up to you and deck you, you could sue me for violating your civil right to not be attacked. Please post a case where that has happened.
     
    Cybred, Nov 22, 2021
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    It's absolutely disgusting that that you're trying to downplay this.

    Riots following George Floyd's death could cost up to $2B
    https://nypost.com › 2020/09/16 › riots-following-geor...
    Sep 16, 2020 — Riots sparked by the police killing of George Floyd could cost insurance companies $1 billion to $2 billion — possibly making them the most ...

    Rioting in 140 cities after George Floyd's death will cost ...
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-8740609
    Sep 16, 2020 — REVEALED: Widespread vandalism and looting during BLM protests will cost the insurance $2 BILLION after violence erupted in 140 cities in ...

    George Floyd Riots Caused Record-Setting $2 Billion in ...
    https://fee.org › articles › george-floyd-riots-caused-rec...
    Sep 16, 2020 — According to new reporting, the post-George-Floyd riots caused up to $2 billion in insured property damage. This sets a new record compared ...

    George Floyd protests - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › George_Floyd_protests
    Nevertheless, arson, vandalism, and looting between May 26 and June 8 were tabulated to have caused $1–2 billion in insured damages nationally—the highest ...
    ‎Background · ‎Protests
     
    Creasy Tvedt, Nov 22, 2021
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  24. Lee Atwater

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    Can you see how people trying to subdue a shooter with an AR-15 who had just killed someone could be viewed as doing a heroic thing?
     
    Lee Atwater, Nov 22, 2021
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  25. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm absolutely disgusted that you are trying to obfuscate the truth.
     
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    Lee Atwater, Nov 22, 2021
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