SUV plows down Wisconsin Christmas parade as children watch in horror

I'd imagen if it were done without insulting or singling out one particular party there wouldn't be any animosity towards those idea's.. Maybe a simply "My condolence's" would be better received in some instances..

 

Every discussion EVERY TIME!

 

Someone saying racist things a year ago is not evidence that every crime he ever commits in the future is racially motivated.

Except you haven't even shown it was whites who were targeted in the first place.

Buddy, there's plenty of crime on the right. Don't get me started. There is, however, no evidence so far that this crime was racially or politically motivated. Maybe that will come out in the future, but it isn't here now.

 

Weird, but not surprising that you can't provide any reasoning for disagreeing.

 

Compared to how many others who were also hit and injured/killed?

 

Fleeing a domestic disturbance is fleeing a domestic disturbance. And no one has "diffused" blame on the perpetrator. Please read the ****ing thread. It isn't very long and I've used short words. In case you actually need it repeated: he deserves to be locked away for life. I just see no evidence so far that his motivation was political or racial. That could change if people decide to actually bring evidence, but that hasn't happened yet.

 

5 dead and 2 dozen or so with various injuries. So 3 out of 5 dead people were the dancing grannies.

 

And how many other people were hit? What was their racial breakdown?

 

Yes, older people are more likely to die of these injuries. What is the racial breakdown of the people he ran over? What is the evidence that he targeted them due to their race?

 

You need to do more research. The 'camps' your referring weren't set up and are not run by Government Agencies, although various departments are responsible for providing public services and logistical support etc. While townships are occupied full time many 'camp sites' (smaller living areas) are occupied seasonally. Members of the local aboriginal community move back and forth between townships and camps as they see fit. They are not transferred arbitrarily by the State.

The camps are run by Aboriginal Communities themselves (and as far as I am aware most if not all of them are on Aboriginal Corporation Lands. Most camp settlements are also located in the 'top end' in remote locations. The normal setup usually involves a main township with camps located some distance from it. Camps are located in areas of cultural significance to particular families or clans within the local aboriginal community who have kinship with the area concerned.

The State or Federal Government have no legal authority to close down to establish camps sites, that's a purely internal matter for the community concerned. And were any government to attempt to do so arbitrarily they would face legal action.

In short the camps are not state run prisons. The 'Work for the dole' scheme is a Federally run employment scheme designed to try and overcome chronic unemployment, poverty and related societal issues in remote aboriginal communities. Put simply there are no jobs in many of these communities and rightly or wrongly the hope is up-skilling members of the community will encourage them to find work locally where they can or else move to other more urbanized parts of the country where there are jobs.

How effective the scheme is? I have no idea. But once again - NOT PRISON CAMPS.

 

Lots of talk about p

I think we know what I was suggesting.

 

You mean other than his calls to racial violence on social media and then seemingly carrying it out?
Its about the same evidence we have in the charlotte case (ie open affiliation with racist groups and racist rhetoric from the mouth of the perp, then attacking a large group of people conveniently assembled. ) and I don't see you decrying a lack of knowledge of motivation there.

 

"intentional".......... are you suggesting he got up that morning and decided to run a vehicle into a Holiday parade??? We need to kow more about this domestic dispute he was fleeing from. It won't excuse his actions...........but we would have more informed opinions


Do we really know his mindset?? Not defending him........ but let's not crucify the man........ without a proper trial.like a civilized population would ..

 

O I think we do know exactly what you were suggesting, which is why I asked about it.

 

There really are some blatant unashamed racists 'around'. Some proudly so!

 

As I said, we can't go there.

But yes, the poster in question was suggesting increasing incarceration rates based on race. I wondered why he didn't also suggest to get a bit of free labour out of that race (get them earning their keep). I thought that would fit in with his worldview.

 

From, what, a year ago? No, that does not prove that every future crime he ever commits is racially motivated.

I didn't speculate about his motivation either, until more evidence came out, and I never attributed a racial motive to him. Check the threads. I said, after watching the video, that I thought his actions were intentional, just as I'm doing here, but I didn't attribute a racial motivation to either.

 

Let's back up for a second. You wrote that the dancing grannies, who were at least 40% of the deceased victims, "weren't actually the victims". You were flat-out wrong about that. You realize that (now), right?

You don't get to just skate away from posting falsehoods like that.

 

OK, my question still stands!

 

Are speaking of your country or ours?

 

what he said on social media........... is free speach. Does it demonstrate INTENT???............

Becasue if that is how it should have been interpreted........then more rigid monitoring of social media is needed.

and his content should have been an alert..........perhaps to the authorities.

 

Ok, you can make up anything you wish. Have at it.

But the police don't buy into your fantasy world.

...
Waukesha police also said the incident was not an act of terrorism.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59378571

 

Can't comment I'm afraid, you'll have to guess where 'around' is.

 

Oh, that was definitely something I was flat-out wrong about. I was going based on the video I saw, which showed him plowing into the marching band. I should have acknowledged the fact that he kept going after that and researched his additional victims. So far, I still see no evidence that he was targeting white people. I'm still waiting for that.

 

So the buildings just caught on fire by themselves.