Anybody agree with my assumption?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Nov 23, 2021.

  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,597
    Likes Received:
    26,705
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Jan. 6 Committee Subpoenas Far-Right Groups

    The House January 6 Committee sent subpoenas on Tuesday to a series of far-right groups and their leaders whose members were involved in either the Capitol insurrection or the rallies beforehand.

    The Proud Boys, its leader Enrique Tarrio, and the Oath Keepers and its leader Stewart Rhodes all received House subpoenas.

    The panel also issued a subpoena to First Amendment Praetorian and its founder, Robert Patrick Lewis. First Amendment Praetorian provided security for a rally on Jan. 5 at Freedom Plaza, according to a permit for the event and its organizer, Cindy Chafian.

    The subpoenas come one day after the panel signaled that its investigation into the rally on the White House ellipse on Jan. 6 had expanded, with demands for documents and interviews going to far-right provocateurs Alex Jones and Roger Stone, but also to people involved in organizing the rally behind the scenes.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/january-6-committee-oath-keepers-proud-boys-subpoena

    My guess is the committee is gathering all the info it can before issuing a subpoena to the Orange Insurrectionist. Naturally they are meeting with obstruction by Trumpists who hope to delay the investigation as along as possible. I just don't think they can say they have thoroughly investigated the coup until they get sworn testimony from Don.
     
  2. dharbert

    dharbert Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    2,262
    Likes Received:
    3,312
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Jan 6th investigation will end up going the same place that the investigation into Benghazi and Hillary's emails went. Nowhere....
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,597
    Likes Received:
    26,705
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If nothing else it will identify chain of command issues to prevent a repeat. Ordinarily I'd say the outcome will disqualify Trump from ever seeking office in the eyes of voters but.....................The Following...........so............
     
    yardmeat and Rampart like this.
  4. LowKey

    LowKey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2012
    Messages:
    1,517
    Likes Received:
    411
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I highly doubt it. I'm not a Trump guy, but I don't think anyone could objectively argue that a nationally televised slap fight between Trump and a bunch of Democratic congressmen is going to favor Trump.

    I mean his popularity is as low as it's gonna get, and now he's totally unrestrained by propriety. It'd be a verbal slaughter.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,491
    Likes Received:
    18,159
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sounds like they take issue with the first amendment.
     
  6. Independent4ever

    Independent4ever Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2020
    Messages:
    3,543
    Likes Received:
    3,581
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Committee is and will continue to be a giant waste of time
    I am anti-trump as one can be, but a political waste of time nonsense, remains nonsense
     
  7. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,427
    Likes Received:
    11,176
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Not I.
     
  8. Big Richard

    Big Richard Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2021
    Messages:
    2,437
    Likes Received:
    2,645
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hey look an a Orangeman post. How unusual is that?
     
  9. Natural Citizen

    Natural Citizen Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2015
    Messages:
    319
    Likes Received:
    109
    Trophy Points:
    43
    To refer to the events of that day in any way as insurrection is laughable. At best what we saw were a bunch of social media driven exhibitionists.

    If true insurrection ever happens, you'll know it.
     
  10. Shinebox

    Shinebox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Messages:
    3,481
    Likes Received:
    1,507
    Trophy Points:
    113
    hey, at least it's not another Rittenhouse hero worship thread ...
     
    Kode, Quantum Nerd and Hey Now like this.
  11. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,155
    Likes Received:
    12,109
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ""My guess is the committee is gathering all the info it can before issuing a subpoena to the Orange Insurrectionist.""
    You think they will get answers to this letter by concerned Congressmen... maybe they will "investigate" this.

    https://republicans-cha.house.gov/s...1 Letter to Speaker Pelosi re January 6th.pdf

    upload_2021-11-23_22-22-44.png
     
    Kat236 and joesnagg like this.
  12. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    76,849
    Likes Received:
    51,594
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You guys are Captain Ahab chasing the Great Orange Whale destroying yourselves in the process.

    The Democratic brand is broken. The infrastructure bill isn’t fixing it and the Congressional Jan 6 Dog and Pony confirm that you've lost both your minds and perspective.

    "In one recent focus group, even those who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 didn't know what the party stands for."
    Heap Big Trouble As Lying Lizzy Warren Might Say
    And they were all Biden Voters. Looking ahead to the 2022 elections:
    And instead of working for the American People Democrats are fixated on the Great Orange Whale who holds no office and probably never again will.

    Betting Odds Congressional Majorities At The Voters First Opportunity
    • Senate: GOP 70% Dems 30%
    • House: GOP 81% Dems 19%
    https://electionbettingodds.com/House2022.html

    By all means continue.
     
    Kat236, Pycckia and joesnagg like this.
  13. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lee, I understand what you're saying but I have to respectfully disagree. He is very litigious and he's slimy and slippery. Until now, he has never really understood that he's not special and is not above rules, regulations and laws. That's why he's soiling his nappy in public constantly. He has fired countless people (his whole business life and as POTUS) and just can't conceptualize himself being fired.

    Sadly, there are enough people that still think he's some kind of deity so he will have all kinds of people running block. With that said, if his past interrogatories and testimony is any indication, he will sit like a petulant child and claim he does not remember for just about every question. He'll eventually get fined and be forced to pay and his cultists and groupies will say that is not evidence of his culpability in anything. He just settles all those cases to stop the witch hunt against his immortal soul and Earthly body.

    As an aside, Powell, Giuliani and Lindell have been thrown to the wolves. Powell and Lindell self-financed their Brown Nosing moments and Giuliani gets the silent treatment and stonewalled when he tries to get paid for his services. I'm still trying to figure out how crazy all of them must be. I know I would be taking a hard look at myself if I couldn't get paid for my work while the same game paid a hooker a lot of money. That's gotta burn.
     
  14. Rampart

    Rampart Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2017
    Messages:
    7,880
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    verbal slaughter? mrs clinton held her own against the top gop congresscritters like trey gowdy and darrel issa, i'm sure trump can best the current committee. it might even be fun for him to use the old alpha male chemistry to have liz chemey throw herself at him.
     
  15. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    13,838
    Likes Received:
    8,121
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the first question is a good one, but misdirected. The speaker of the House has no control over the National Guard, that comes under the office of the President. Why didn't Benedict Donald provide National Guard support to the Capitol Police? I'm sure that is something the Select Committee will be interested in.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
    Quantum Nerd and Rampart like this.
  16. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,653
    Likes Received:
    11,228
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is reminiscent of when McCarthy subpoenaed Communist Party members.

    I don't support it.
    Investigating a crime that isn't there.
    More like political harassment.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
    joesnagg likes this.
  17. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,653
    Likes Received:
    11,228
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please tell us what exactly they are investigating? What exactly is it that warrants them being subpoenaed to give testimony?

    Are they angry that they are ready to use violence against other people who attack them first because they hate their beliefs? Is that seen as wrong, bad, illegal...
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
  18. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,653
    Likes Received:
    11,228
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why so? Is there any legitimate reason to believe they did something wrong? People organize a political rally and they blame the organizers when it got violent?

    related thread: Jury orders Unite the Right leaders to pay $13 million
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
  19. joesnagg

    joesnagg Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2020
    Messages:
    4,749
    Likes Received:
    6,799
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Tuesday, November 8th 2022 this circle-jerk sideshow gets voted out...ANYBODY AGREE WITH MY ASSUMPTION?
     
  20. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,155
    Likes Received:
    12,109
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These congressmen say she was... I am willing to "investigate" what the speaker of the house was communicating that day... how about you.... an investigation is an investigation... let's look at ALL that were involved.
    '
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
  21. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,155
    Likes Received:
    12,109
    Trophy Points:
    113
    video
    Even in January, that was a given, as many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense. That was a direct order from President Trump and yet here is what we see, all kinds of blame going around but yet not a whole lot of accountability. That accountability needs to rest with where it ultimately should be and that’s on Capitol Hill.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fered_security_assistance_multiple_times.html

    https://www.worldtribune.com/meadow...y-10000-national-guard-to-d-c-ahead-of-jan-6/

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ultiple-times-dc-officials-january-6th-video/
     
  22. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,155
    Likes Received:
    12,109
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BREAKING: Kash Patel confirms the Trump Admin was trying to deploy the National Guard for Jan 6 but were blocked

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/st...efused-trumps-offer-of-national-guard-on-1-6/

    upload_2021-11-24_7-32-30.png
     
  23. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,155
    Likes Received:
    12,109
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots
    https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/9555...ims-national-guard-was-never-called-during-ri
     
  24. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The FBI found nothing so the clown show is for people like you.
     
    popscott and yabberefugee like this.
  25. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,597
    Likes Received:
    26,705
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021

Share This Page