Thanksgiving canceled? Liberals who say America's holiday promotes genocide and White supremacy

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  1. Surfer Joe

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    Lol...is it too early to start the traditional 'war on Christmas' whining?
     
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    Sadly, I think it is for them.
     
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    I have a **** ton of Genocide Dinner leftovers waiting for me. Plus we killed the bottle of proper 12.
     
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    Yeah, I violated a personal rule to click on Faux News links to see WTF they were spouting about. As usual, nothing had anything to do with "cancelling" Thanksgiving. Most simply suggested people become better educated as to the origin of the holiday and a few lightheartedly suggested forgoing the turkey, if an additional $8-$10 (for the entire meal for 10 people) is going to cause you to have to go on the government teat....

    So tedious....
     
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    Heh heh heh. Welcome to life; there's no going back.
     
  6. Pycckia

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    I don't agree. The left is out to erase American Civilization: Christmas, Thanksgiving, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, the National Anthem, and much more. Normal people have to crush this cultural genocide.
     
  7. Hey Now

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    Not trying to be offensive or judgmental here but you are describing a 'radicalized' perspective IMO.
     
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    We bought an 18.4 lb turkey for 3 people to celebrate the booming economy (.87 cents/lb - frozen Butterball).... I guarantee you we could compete with your leftover stash, but the wife is getting creative with some additional alternatives after that 2nd plate of Thankgiving-type dinner (probably tomorrow).

    Turkey Noodle soup on Sunday (utilizing the carcass, which symbolizes how the Pilgrims boiled all the Injuns after that first dinner) and something called Turkey Tetrazzini coming next week (passing on the mushrooms)

    https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/37784/easy-turkey-tetrazzini/
     
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  9. Pycckia

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    I don't agree. Russia, Hungary, Poland are coming back. The leftist paradigm is poison and the left evemtually succumbs to it
     
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    None taken. I am radically opposed to the leftist machinations.
     
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    Nothing like posting a video from one of the worst human beings ever step foot on this planet. I’m sure Satan is enjoying his company on the side of his throne
     
  12. Stuart Wolfe

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    OK, let's try ONE of the links with the FOX link Cruz blasts MSNBC over segment tying Thanksgiving to 'white supremacy' and 'genocide'


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    So here's what happened: MSNBC pulls a massive guilt trip on America worthy of my mom. FOX reports on Cruz calling them out. You're critical of FOX - but shouldn't you actually be critical of MSNBC for making that imbecillic statement? Who is instigating said Culture Wars - MSNBC, or FOX for calling out MSNBC? And what do you think of what MSNBC said in the first place? I mean, if MSNBC isn't instigating a culture war, I dunno what is.
     
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    If I was to let the media dictate my thought process and manipulate my emotions, I would agree with you. On a side, compare the commercials on Fox vs CNN/MSNBC as side by side business models and it will tell you who their viewers are, their platforms are and their target markets.
     
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    What did "MSNBC" say in the first place? They had a Native American on to explain the NA view of Thanksgiving and tweeted THAT PERSON'S money quote...

    The difference is, unlike the Fox-led side of the culture wars, most people on BOTH sides don't give a hoot what this person thinks about Thanksgiving. Whereas the sun rises and sets for conservatives on the mono-view Fox...
     
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    Well, you are not (I hope) one of the millions of easily-triggered LW-ers who ARE having their thought processes dictated by the Legacy Media. But the problem is that FOX called them out on it and - you're upset at FOX? I don't get it. MSNBC is the cause, FOX is the reaction. You oughtta be upset at the cause.

    Generally you can do that with any medium. Ads in comic books will be different than ads in the NYT based on their audiences.
     
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    Your house, your rules. By your own admission, it wasn't liberals who canceled your thanksgiving, - it was you.

    Their obsession in these kinds of stories is beyond absurd, but FOX is a business and they know they can make money out the victim mentality of their viewers, as you can see by the OP reaction.

    I never met such person in my life. FOX is not talking about reality, or real people, they refer so some person somewhere who said something, which they think they can use to make "liberals" in general look bad. They do it all the time.
     
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    Don't blame the Liberals. The Addams family started it way back in the 90s.

     
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    They gave a platform for this guy to speak; I'm pretty sure they agree with it to a large degree. I mean, you think MSNBC is gonna let a Trump supporter on? MSNBC is pretty open about their partisanship - they are at least honest about it. I'll try it another way: What exactly did FOX do here? They reported what LW media sources said about Thanksgiving. Your response is to slam FOX. It does make me think FOX is onto something here if your response to what MSNBC ran is to blame the whistleblower.
     
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    Well, I disappointed that you simply dismissed my advertisement point. It tells you that I look at all the networks simply but the type of ads takes the 'thought process' much beyond the message but to the intended 'target' and how they are perceived/analyzed and 'encouraged'.
    To you first 'point' if you need to view me as a LWer, then that already allows one to put on the partisan blinders and only narrowly focus. That I can't help with or provide any insight to. So, I will reiterate my original point, don't let the news you watch dictate your thought process. They are trying to get you to stay tuned in and on the edge of fear then anger = eyeballs and open pockets.
     
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    You are aware that was sarcasm, right?

    So, just out of curiosity, the person saying that violence and genocide is still on the menu every Thanksgiving - would that be considered a victim mentality? Is reporting that MSNBC gives credence to it somehow a victim mentality?

    Guys, come on: The logic here is that anytime some media outlet reports on something, it's fostering a victim mentality. This has GOTTA be obvious. The person decrying Thanksgiving is the one - among others reported on - who has the victim mentality. Seriously - calling him out is NOT the same thing and needs to be done.
     
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    LMAO...Russia, Poland and Hungary are becoming shitholes run by bigoted regressives. They have been deteriorating since they started aping the old soviet paradigm to pander to the paranoid right.
     
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    Hugary and Russia didn't seem like '**** holes' when I visited them recently. On what do you base your opinion?
     
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    From the links
    ""Thanksgiving is about murder, plunder and hate. Invite your relatives over to spread love and gravy? No, if you really want to honor the spirit of Thanksgiving, you should whip yourself with barbed wire all day," Smith continued. "

    ""This year, Julie is not celebrating Thanksgiving and is instead organizing an event on Native American Heritage Day called ‘Thanks for Kids,’ which celebrates Native children," Shen wrote. "

    "Critics of Wall Street Journal want to cancel Thanksgiving editorials

    The Wall Street Journal editorial board was forced to announce that the paper will continue with the publishing of its annual Thanksgiving editorials despite efforts by the left to cancel them. "

    "Philadelphia Tribune declares Thanksgiving to be a celebration of racist genocide, mass land robbery "

    And others

    "This Thanksgiving, please consider some alternate options such as listening to Native speakers to broaden your perspectives, engaging and educating your families on this topic, giving back to the community or supporting Native businesses," Oregon Democratic State Senator Kayse Jama tweeted.

    Senator Kayse Jama (He/Him)
    @SenatorJama


    “We do not celebrate Thanksgiving in my house and my kids are fully aware of the misconceptions of Happy Thanksgiving. To me, this holiday continues to perpetuate a myth and completely disregards the centuries of genocide and Indigenous erasure, that is still happening today.”


    I think they all point in the cancellation direction.
     
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    It's not so much that I dismissed it so much that I've known it for awhile now - heck, I noticed as a kid growing up well before cable came along that certain shows had commercials for toys and others for denture cream. Once you take that to the next level, well ... there ya go. I just now tried to find a book I bought ages ago about targeting people that starts with ads and ends with selecting juries but the garage is a mess right now. It was brilliant, I wish I could remember the title so I could recommend it to you.

    I actually don't know for sure that you ARE an LW-er - I suspect you lean center-left based on who you're disagreeing with here but I haven't really thought about it too much. I did say "Well, you are not (I hope) one of the millions of easily-triggered LW-ers who ARE having their thought processes dictated by the Legacy Media." - maybe I could have phrased that better. I mean, I am a conservative but not a Trump supporter and I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been called one anyway even after my saying a jillion times I wasn't. In fact, I would say that Trump - while he was nowhere near prez material, he'd still have been out as prez in four or eight years whereas the legacy media is still around and their self-appointed job is no longer to simply report the news but to shape it and their viewers minds as well. I actually consider the corruption of the media and their "role" in corrupting their viewers to be the biggest problem the country has today, or at least in the top three problems. This is kinda why I see what MSNBC is doing regarding Thanksgiving as egregious as it is, and why I'm a bit stunned that FOX - which did the right thing here regardless of what else FOX has done - is being called out on it.
     
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    Damn straight it is.
     

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