My Doctor says I don’t need the vaccine after contracting covid.

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  1. gfm7175

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    So no reasoning that is based in any science, eh??

    Only a reason that is based in coersion/force and one's fear of losing a job??

    I thought that you believed in "following the science"?? Apparently not...
     
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    I would recommend that they either find more intelligent doctors or to ignore the stupid advice of those doctors. There is absolutely NO reason (rooted in science, anyway) to get a COVID jab after having already acquired natural immunity to COVID.
     
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    One should not get the jab after contracting COVID. Period. There is absolutely NO reason to do so (that is rooted in science, anyway).
     
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    A good policy on your part.
     
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    No, what he said about the 'fines on employers' matter was absolutely correct. You need to do your homework.

    ... and neither have I by my employer. However, many other people HAVE been told by their employers to get vaccinated or be fired (or otherwise laid off without pay).

    This goes well beyond just medical personnel. It's funny how the very same medical personnel who were being heralded by the left as "heroes" just moments ago are now being considered by those same leftists as "diseased scum" (who ought to be fired) simply because those people have decided for themselves to not get jabbed.

    It's also funny how the same leftists whine/bitch/moan about "overflowing hospital beds" and etc yet they're willing to release a large portion of the medical field workforce because those people have decided for themselves to not get jabbed. How, exactly, is significantly LESS medical workforce "HELPING" the "overflowing hospital beds" issue?
     
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    This sort of thing is already happening in parts of the world, and is NO laughing matter... Right now, in some areas of the world, people are being rounded up and put into COVID camps. People are also being made into prisoners within their own homes, only allowed outside of them for medical and other government approved reasons.
     
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    I listen to my doctor and he said everyone should definitely get the vaccine whether or not they had Covid, especially if it has been more than few months since the infection.

    If you are afraid of the vaccine, you can get an exemption from the employer. Just say that you prayed about it and the LORD told you to not take it. Of course that would be a tough sell, if you are an atheist and everyone knows it. Or you can say that you are allergic to many meds (true or not) and are concerned about it. Or you can opt for the testing. It should not be a big deal. My employer mandated it early on, and pretty much everyone took it, while some applied for exemption, and got it. I dont think anyone was refused an exemption and then got fired.

    It seems you bought into social media fake news. Australia has camps, but they are for quarantining incoming travelers. People are not rounded up and sent to "Covid camps".

    Verdict:

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    Everything that was said was valid.

    Not hogwash. Numerous treatments work for COVID. Ivermectin is one of them, and has worked in Uttar Pradesh, Japan, and other areas of the world.

    It is not statistically significant.

    Many others don't experience any of that. Maybe those people should take action to boost their health and immune system so that they can better fight off diseases.

    Not hogwash. They were not adequately tested and the mRNA technology has never worked to date.

    No, they don't, for several reasons.

    [1] Many people who have gotten the shots are STILL getting and spreading COVID.

    [2] Many people who have gotten the shots are STILL scared shitless of COVID and still want to mandate that others get the shots and wear masks even though THEY THEMSELVES got the shots and are wearing masks. IF the shots and masks actually worked, then such people would not be the slightest bit concerned about other people around them choosing NOT to do those things.

    So long as you continue to live your life in fear, the shots and masks are not working for you. So long as a bunch of vaccinated people are STILL contracting and spreading COVID, the shots are not working. No matter how you want to look at it (whether scientifically or emotionally), the shots and masks are NOT working.
     
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    I would suggest NOT listening to your doctor (as he has no clue what he is talking about). There is NO (scientific/logical) reason WHATSOEVER to get a covid jab after having already contracted covid. NONE.

    Many places are not allowing any sort of exemptions, and one shouldn't have to request an exemption (or undergo a 'testing option') in the first place. My body my choice, remember??
     
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    Politifact summarily dismissed. You cannot use Politifact as a source with me, as they are too often misleading, incomplete, or just plain wrong.

    I will instead believe the Queensland Premier herself who has said that the quarantine camps there are for unvaccinated people.
     
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    Do you seriously think I would listen to you as opposed to my doctor? I mean......seriously?

    You spend a lot of time telling people they should not get the vaccine. Why? What do you care?

    So you are "my body my choice" folk. Ok. Good to know.

    Me, I don't support government mandates, but private businesses can impose any requirement they want, and unlike you, I don't try to persuade people to take it or not take it. I am simply saying that it is recommended, and provides proven benefits. Hospitals were full of unvaccinated people, some of whom were sick for the 2nd or 3rd time. I know someone who died the 2nd time he was infected and he was not old either.

    Of course you dismiss everything that disagrees with the garbage you swallowed in the social media.

    Unvaccinated incoming travelers are quarantined there. I suppose they could be forced to stay in a hotel and pay $300 a night to sit in a hotel room, like they do in some countries.
     
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    I don't expect you to, but what I am saying is intelligent and science based and what your doctor is saying is moronic and in denial of science.

    I'm not ordering people to do anything. It's their decision to make for themselves. Their body their choice. I simply want them to be informed before making such decisions and I prefer people to be healthy.

    Private businesses cannot do that which is unlawful and unconstitutional.

    ... by who?? and so what?? I personally do NOT recommend it.

    ... such as??

    LIES. Hospitals are seeing both vaccinated and unvaccinated come through their doors, more-so vaccinated people nowadays even though they've been vaccinated for COVID... hmmmm.....

    ... and other people have known someone who died immediately after receiving a COVID shot... Others know people who suffered myocarditis immediately after receiving a COVID shot. Others know people who got COVID a month after getting a COVID shot, some of them dying afterwards. So???

    Politifact is not 'everything'. I have specifically dismissed Politifact for the reasoning that I have provided.

    What "garbage" have I "swallowed" and from where?? What are you even talking about???

    No, the Premier herself specifically said that those camps are for unvaccinated people... Those are the Premier's own words... Are you saying that she is a liar??
     
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    My doctor is a scientist, and you....are a random internet poster. Yes, I'll listen to my doctor and other scientists who don't have a political agenda like you do.

    You spend a lot of time trying to persuade them to not take it

    You'll have to quote the text in the constitution which makes it illegal for private companies to create and enforce their corporate policies.

    Such as minimizing the chances of serious illness of death from Covid.

    Unvaccinated outnumbered the vaccinated 9 to 1.

    Unvaccinated TRAVELERS. You took a Facebook hoax for gospel. Australian Department of Health has confirmed it is fake.

    "Similarly, a spokeswoman for the Australian Department of Health said the “post is false”.

    She told AAP FactCheck in an email that the government was collaborating with state and territory governments to design and build managed quarantine facilities “intended to support the quarantine of returning international travellers”.

    In future, vaccinated and unvaccinated travellers could face different quarantine requirements, but this wouldn’t mean unvaccinated people living in the country would be put in camps."
     
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    Since when does a company have to make policies based on science?
    Then can ban wearing the color red if they choose. And one could be fired for wearing red.
     
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    Which science is that? Link please.
     
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    It seems most partisans on the right hate an intrusive government, until it refuses to intrude on their personal soap box.

    "We need smaller government!"

    Same guy: "Government should totally be involved in a private corporation's policy decisions!"

    Lol.
     
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    Here's the title to your link.

    Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

    ...

    No duh, If one posts false information to anything as a doctor, medically related, they could lose their medical license. And they should.
     
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    Ya, that was outrageously hilarious response. Don't listen to your own doctor, rely on some anonymous internet poster.
    And one that is no where near the medical field.
     
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    That is true in the normal time, but not during the COVID dictatorship.
    That is why totalitarian regime is always fail, because everyone is afraid to do anything against government policies.
    Current policy (absolutely non-scientific) - everyone should get vaccine nomatterwhat.
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    You're saying its ok to doctors to lie just because we have covid? What kind of logic is that?
    It's not a gov't policy to require doctors to not make false claims or give out false information anytime. Covid or no covid. They will get their license revoked in all likelyhood. That is the medical professions rules.

    No one is saying everyone should get vaccinated no matter what. Why not stay in reality with claims?
     
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    What are your personal consequences for violating this so-called policy?

    if there are no consequences, it's a suggestion. A government suggesting something isn't very totalitarian.
     
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    What do you mean? I work for a company that is contractor of the government contractor, (subcontractor of the contractor).
    My company forces me to inject some kind of medication against my will threatening to fire me, without employment benefits.
    It is an outright human right violation.
     
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    Doctors are forced to lie (at least not to provide the best advice to the patient). Even though not all patients need injection of questionable substance doctors should suggest vaccination. Government (Joe Biden) is also saying that, he does not care about anything, just get vaccinated.
     
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    Companies cannot enforce policies that are illegal.
    Currently mandatory vaccination is suspended i.e. potentially illegal.
     

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