Prosecutors charge parents of Michigan school shooting suspect

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Who do not have time

    Honestly bottom line - our kids do not have to learn active shooter drills

     
  2. flyboy56

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    And I believe his mother knew he was suicidal which is why she probably texted "don't do it" after the shootings. Meaning don't kill yourself.
     
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    I already am hearing people filing a lawsuit against a school who is not preparing their students for being shot.
    It is whatever it takes, but don't blame the gun enthusiast of letting every person own a gun and potentially start a massacre.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you really worry about ‘potential’ then you should never leave your house.
     
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  5. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    While I agree with this in principle, I do believe our public safety laws need updating for the times that we live in. it shouldn't be as simple as buying a minor a gun and then he goes and kills his fellow classmates less than a week later. We can do better without gutting the second amendment.
     
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    The searching for ammo is more about the mother's character. She ignores calls from the school but texted her son about not getting caught. Sounds like something a friend would tell another friend and not a mother who should take her child's education seriously. Your teenage child is not your friend.
     
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    Or just no parenting at all. And in this case the mother telling her son not to get caught when searching for ammo while in class. That is not what most mother's would have done, instead a concerned mom would have returned the school's calls instead of ignoring the school. This particular mom seems to think she is her son's friend and not his mother. And telling her son "don't do it" maybe about her not wanting her son to kill himself after the shootings which then leads me to believe she knew something about his state of mind prior to his killing spree. This is what should come out in court and hopefully a prosecutor who is a mom herself will be able to connect with her to get the truth out. Maybe the mother needs some help as well.
     
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    Such as providing psychological help for kids.
     
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    You can leave out the potential. This stuff happens all the time.... in Murica nr 1.

    While their parents can still loiter their guns and ammo around.
    How could this fail?
     
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    Sure, don’t help the kids. Got it.
     
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    possibly, but that would not make her a criminal, telling someone not to kill themselves is not a crime

    this is one of those slippery slope cases, we have to be careful

    I also wonder if the man had done what mom did, if the mom would of also been charged or just dad
     
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    agree, I think they can be civilly liable, not sure about criminally

    what if one let their child take the suv, and they drove over kids at a school event, arrest the parents
     
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    Sure. Just let kids help themselves picking up a weapon and kill around while they are getting help.
    Marvelous plan.
     
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    If there are red flags going up on this. The school knows and talks with the parents about it. Yet the parents give him an SUV and practice driving with it..... what's the problem with holding them accountable for aiding their terroristic child? Or is just only a thing when a Muslim does this?
     
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    I get it, you want to vilify the majority of parents instead of helping the kids with problems. Very Biden like.
     
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    You think that's what "don't do it" was about? Clearly, she suspected her son was involved (as did Dad, who called his son the probable shooter to 911).

    Is "don't do it" not to kill yourself or to stop shooting people?

    Interesting theory... As with all mass shooters, I'm a little disappointed he didn't end up with himself... Always saves a lot of trial and incarceration money that way...
     
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    No, you CLEARLY don't.... we are vilifying THESE parents because they not only made no obvious attempts to do the bare minimum to help their problem child, they exacerbated the problems...

    I find it hard to believe there is somebody out there who gets this less than you...
     
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    Or, no parent has ever been charged criminally when the child commits a crime. It’s a politically motivated charge and a slippery slope.
     
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    Parents are not psychologists. Schools have them for a reason. If anybody is culpable it’s the school.
     
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    Since he already did the shooting it makes more sense the mother was referring to her son killing himself.
     
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    She overcharged in this and is going to lose the case. Their is no legal precedent for Manslaughter charges in a case like this in Michigan. In order to prove that she would have to prove that they KNOWINGLY gave the child the gun to go commit his horrible crimes. I don't see that being the case here. They are, 100 percent, on the hook CIVILLY for his actions and I hope they get sued into the ground for their reckless irresponsible use of firearms. And make no mistake about it this paints gun owners in a bad light for sure. It angers me to no end that they bought a firearm for a mentally disturbed 15 year old boy and than left it where he could get to it. Talk about feeding GUN CONTROL FANATICS fuel.
     
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    No it doesn't but it does go to how much the mother might have known prior to the shootings. Negligent charges just may be warranted at least against the mother. Other than a phone call to 911 we don't have anything in the way of texts from him.
     
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    Exactly. Jaded teens Thats hate their parents can kill a bunch of kids now AND the parents take the fall
    It’s sending a message alright!
     
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    First criminal case of its kind. Truly a political prosecution and a slippery slope.
     
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    But would she have known at the time of the text he was in custody and wasn't actively shooting? minor detail..

    Whichever, it's not a good look, is it?
     

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