Just 22% of Amricans want Joe Biden to run for president again

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    True Conservatism is surely based on liberal ideology however was corrupted by Neoconservatism.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberalism
    Full Definition of liberalism
    1 : the quality or state of being liberal
    2a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity
    b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard (see gold standard sense 1)
    c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy (see autonomy sense 2) of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (such as those involving race, gender, or class)
    d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal (see liberal entry 1 sense 6b) party
     
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    So, you're a progressive.
     
  3. Bearack

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    Um.... not even close. How do you get progressive out of the Liberal definition???
     
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    "c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress"
     
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    Sounds like a flaming proggie.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see how a reasonable person could read his question as an insult. Neither party falls under the definition of fascist, but when it comes to authoritarianism, the left is in the lead.
     
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    Progressive = Proponents of social reform

    Its not a new concept.

    The Progressive Era (1896–1916) was a period of widespread social activism and political reform across the United States of America that spanned the 1890s to World War I. Progressive reformers were typically middle-class society women or Christian ministers. The main objectives of the Progressive movement were addressing problems caused by industrialization, urbanization, immigration, and political corruption. Social reformers were primarily middle-class citizens who targeted political machines and their bosses. By taking down these corrupt representatives in office, a further means of direct democracy would be established. They also sought regulation of monopolies through methods such as trustbusting and corporations through antitrust laws, which were seen as a way to promote equal competition for the advantage of legitimate competitors. They also advocated for new government roles and regulations, and new agencies to carry out those roles, such as the FDA.

    Many progressives supported prohibition of alcoholic beverages, ostensibly to destroy the political power of local bosses based in saloons, but others out of religious motivation.
     
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    Hah... because the work progress is in the definition surely does necessarily translate into Progressivism

    These, in themselves, go pretty much polar opposite of Progressivism;

    2a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity
    b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard (see gold standard sense 1)

    What you excluded from your snippet;
    c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy (see autonomy sense 2) of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (such as those involving race, gender, or class)
    d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal (see liberal entry 1 sense 6b) party
     
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    You posted the definition. I take it you disagree with it.
     
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    I don't think he should run. But I also don't think it makes a lot of sense to read intent into his actions, as you have.
     
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    Nope, not at all. I think all platforms should be using the true definition of liberalism as the base of their platform. You took a single word and assumed that it means solely Progressivism which it surely is not. Notice I never once states Conservatism = Liberalism.

    I see you also made the same mistake when you tried to apply an erroneous fascism label on Trump and the GOP when we are clearly seeing clear fascism taking place in this country by the progressive left.
     
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    Okay.
     
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    please research the most famous fascists of history

    you will find names like

    1. Mussolini
    2. hiltler
    3.vichy

    is biden or trump more similiar to the above dictators??

    did biden whine like a bitch when hillary lost??

    did biden accuse the very system that elected him of being corrupt??

    in my lifetime if there was ever an example of a fascist it would have to be T-rump

    below is a definition of a fascism


    Fascism is a political ideology which is based on far-right nationalism, with an authoritarian power structure and low tolerance for dissent or disagreement.

    It stands in contrast to democratic values, which support equality and freedom for all. Instead, fascists believe that some people are naturally better than others and should therefore rule over them.
     
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    Lol no, that's wishful thinking.
     
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    Anyone can call themselves "independent." As far I have seen, they are almost always conservative.
     
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    You aren't paying attention to the inside baseball stuff.

    Like Kamalas office in disarray, tensions between Jill and Kamala, WH staff being made to pose for propaganda.
     
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    They may be conservative from your perspective but you are on the left, so everything is to your right.
     
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    Same for you.
     
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    I love how you use the Wikiepedia version for Fascism using the creative word "far-right" nomenclature to paint an erroneous and quite false picture.


    Yes... just like a bully that took their lunch money. Matter of fact, they created a false dossier, accused him of collusion, illegally spied on his cabinet, told their world days after is inauguration that there was going to be coup and impeachment would surely follow and continued to call him an illegitimate president.

    In fairness, Biden didn't but the DNC and the left surely were claiming the election was stolen. Surprised (not really) you have forgotten that.

    Then you are surely not seeing the left and how they doing on behalf of the people by locking people down, forcing companies to comply. Forcing children to take an experimental drug and literally gas lighting every story that comes out.

    So, do you think that people who get vaccinated are better than those who chose not to get vaccinated? Do you feel that the unvaccinated should have liberties stripped away until they comply? Do you think people that believe in natural immunity should be fired and not given UEB's?

    Maybe you should take a hard, hard look in the mirror as for that one finger you point at us, there is surely 3 others pointing right back at you!
     
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    You just made an outrageous and damning claim on a political forum with zero proof. When asked for the proof... you ran away. Perhaps this is not for you?

    Pro Tip: Someone saying they don't think you know what something is, is not an insult. If I did insult you, you can report me, and the staff is quite capable of dealing with me or anyone else making insults.
     
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    Love your nazi symbols. Heil.
     
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    Of course, another way of looking at that data is like THIS:

    Of the Democrats Polled 13% said "Not Sure".

    Thus, 87% of Democrats indicated a preference.

    Since, Biden got 37% of the 100% and only 87% indicated a preference...

    THUS, Among Democractic Voters indicating a Preference:

    Biden is favored by 43% (37/87).

    THUS, The Headline Could Be:

    Biden is Preferred By 43% of Democratic Voters (Who Indicated a Preference).
     
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    did members of the DNC invade the capitol and attempt to stop the election confirmation??

    and chant " hang Joe biden" in 2017??

    I am not saying the DNC is not above cheating..but at least they have the class to try and hide it

    trump involved foreign nations trying to rig the election of 2020

    then after being defeated he attempted to overturn the results with lawsuits and phone calls

    do these words sound familiar?? "I just need you to find 10,800 votes" to the election official in georgia

    and now the GOP are trying to change the rules of voting to keep power

    has biden ever called other countries "sh!t holes"

    the governor of florida is creating his own personal military

    the democrats are only doing what the scientists suggest regarding covid and vaccines

    personally I dont give a sh!t who does not get a vaccine

    if people are stupid enough get medical advice from a comedian poscaster like Joe Rogan then that is on them

    being a survivor of cancer and witnessing firsthand the miracles of modern medicine

    I will follow the advice of a bona fide doctor...not some guy that gets stoned and spews conspiracy theories on a podcast

    the theories being broadcast by Rogan are even more experimental than the vaccines

    BILLIONS of doses have been given worldwide without side effects..

    and yes like crossing the street there is always a chance of catastrophe..

    but I will take my chance with a vaccine rather than what some steriod using pothead says
     
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    That sounds about right coming out of a Leftist.
     
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    Good. I hope Pee Pads runs again and takes Knee Pads with him.
     
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