Ending Roe will not end abortions!!!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, West Coast and Midwest will still allow abortions. People in Red states will go there to get abortions.

    Congress will pass a law allowing women to cross into other states to allow them to get an abortion without fear of prosecution/persecution in their home state.

    Law will also protect doctors and those who provide transportation & funds.

    Interstate Commerce Clause is cool like that.

    :)
     
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    Of course, it won't.

    The Mississippi abortion law doesn't ban all abortions, either.
     
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    Nobody said that it would end abortions.

    Do murder laws end murders? Do theft laws end theft? Do speed limit laws end speeding?
     
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    Nothing will end abortion. Or guns. Or drugs. Not anytime soon anyway. Products and services are driven by demand, not supply. Drying up supply in the legal market will only empower the black market to profit by picking up the slack. But everyone already knows that. Those that want to restrict abortion merely want to make those demanding it into criminals in precisely the same way that those who want to restrict guns and/or drugs want to make those demanding them into criminals. If we keep trying to make people who engage in activities we don't like into criminals, eventually we'll all be criminals and the law will be meaningless.
     
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    Why do you believe congress needs to make a law like that? Do I need to ask congress to go to Denver and smoke a joint?
     
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    So you claim pro-choicers should not be too concerned about Roe vs Wade being overturned?
     
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    Women in every state should be able to get an abortion within 20 weeks, which is when viability starts. If they can no longer do it in Mississippi there will be lots of folks willing to pay for her flight to Virginia.
     
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    Of course not.

    The Brits will happily murder your baby for you.
     
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    It will only end abortions for women who are too poor to handle the costs involved in making the trip to another state.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If abortion ever becomes returned to the states, I think pro-choicers will be in for a surprise if they think women can just travel to other states and it will be 100% legal.

    That's the REAL reason they are concerned. Of course, most pro-choicers don't want to openly admit that and would prefer sticking with the line that "banning abortion would be pointless".
     
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    What kind of a sick **** gets an abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy?

    That's disgusting
     
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    Especially an elective one, with absolutely no abnormal health issues.
     
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    Hopefully the " fathers" would pay for these abortions. OR they can take primary custody of the child and raise it up themselves. a rapist should be made to pay for the abortion...........Or maybe his family can raise t he resulting child. If the so called "father " is not involved or refuses to be involved......then ..it is no one's business what the woman decides to do.........with an unwanted pregnancy. And this decision is between herself and her medical advisor.
     
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    Agreed. As for cost and travel, there will always be support orgs to help them with the costs, if not even Gubmint assistance.. I think making it a state issue might just put a lid on it for good, that way both sides of the issue feel as if they accomplished what they need to accept it..
     
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    Maybe the mother is very ill and can't handle the pregnancy. These situations are not always clear cut..........and to pass judgement is counterproductive.
     
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    YES! ...and then rightie taxpayers will scream bloody murder about rising Welfare costs...too bad it's not ONLY Anti-Choicer's taxes that will go up.....but THEY should pay for all these additional "precious lives". :)
     
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    Anti-Choicers aim isn't to end abortions,(even they aren't so stupid as to think abortion will disappear after 10,000 years of it.)

    Their aim is to punish women for having sex with no repercussions..
     
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    Nobody ever said that if the mother's health were at stake that she couldn't get an abortion. That's always been the case and always will be the case. So try again.
     
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    How strange that many forget that men are part of the equation;...............Someone's sperm fertilized the egg. If the Speer doner had to deal with an unwanted pregnancies........ this would probably not even be a discussion.

    Want to prevent the number of abortions?? or unwanted pregnancies USE BIRTH CONTROL.
     
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    Killing other human beings should be illegal.
     
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    Unless Texas passes a law which allows anybody to sue you for doing it...... you are ok for now. I say let these ignorant cracker states pass all the stupid laws they want. Guns for everyone over the age of 6, voter suppression and whatever other idiotic notions they have. Outside of New Orleans, nobody want to visit any of those States anyway. Hopefully all the sane people who live in those states will move to swing states like Georgia, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Nevada and blow all the Trumpist idiots out of office for good. Then for all I care, these states can start a new confederacy, withdraw from the US and F off.
     
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    one that is sick and dying if they don't probably

    maybe someone raped and kept prisoner and rescued after 15 weeks?
     
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    How do you feel about self defense?
     
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    self defense does not imply one has to kill someone....



    Folks seem to confuse an embryo with a self sufficient human being.
     
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    I guarantee you a southern state will attempt to pass a law making it illegal for residents to have abortions in other states. But that would be struck down anyway so you’re right . Congress need not intervene.
     
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