Should the media be an advocate for democracy?

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    One party violently attacked the Capitol--Trump and GOP.
     
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    And the other encouraged or tacitly approved nationwide arson, looting and riots, errrm, "peaceful protests."

    Two sides of the same coin.
     
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    weird
     
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    What Democrat supported "arson?"
     
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    Should the media be an advocate for democracy ?

    ~ The media should be an impartial advocate for truth. ✔
     
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    That is a very good question. It requires first and foremost citizens unwilling to cede their agency to the state in exchange for "security."
     
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    Hobbes' argument is that the only justification for government is security. I may not fully agree with him, but there is something to that.
     
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    Which one comdemned it? Which one pushed back on the notion that it comprised "peaceful protest" ?
     
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    And Mill's counterpoint would be that its justification would be to preserve individual agency and liberty, speaking of utilitarianism. I would tend to lean in that direction.
     
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    A nation is not a bunch of individuals.
     
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    ~ Let us hope this is the majority - or else America is lost.

    ~ That makes no sense - unless you believe in group-think .
     
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    Eh? Come again?

    What else would it be? A bunch of cows?
     
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    What else would it be? A bunch of cows?[/QUOTE]

    Citizens.
     
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    I hate to sound cynical, but I think we lost the plot a long time ago. Sycophant-citizens on both sides of the aisle have been too fascinated by the shiny objects waved in front of them by highly-skilled merchants of snake oil and verbal Viagra while taken in by extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds.

    NB: We get the government we deserve. Careful what you wish for as the saying goes...
     
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    Citizens.
    Citizens are not individuals? Several of them would not be a bunch? Of individuals?
     
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    Citizens.[/QUOTE]

    :buggered: ~ You obviously are not the real Aristotle . Imposter !! :bleh:' :whisper:
    84469b33a7827daa536dd0056749f83e.jpg " Get me out of here ... "
     
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    Group think created the US Constitution.
     
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    :buggered: ~ You obviously are not the real Aristotle. Imposter !! :bleh:' :whisper:
    View attachment 160701 " Get me out of here ... "[/QUOTE]

    Aristotle died already.
     
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    A citizen is a member of a nation and participant in its affairs. Not a private individual.
     
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    ~ The sad thing is they are not even very good at deception. If an average dummy like me can see it with just some time and research they should not be able to fool the masses . :wierdface:
     
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    Aristotle died already.[/QUOTE]

    ~ Does he know that .. ? :omfg:'
     
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    The current Democratic party leadership formed a group to bail out antifa a d BLM rioters. They are running that absurd 1/6 riot Investigation.
     
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    Please, clarify, do you support the violent overthrow of government?
     
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    Fallacy, argumentum falsus dichotomia.

    You are arguing a person can't be both? Sure about that? I'll give you the opportunity to re-tool that assertion.
     
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    Wow.
     

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