Should the media be an advocate for democracy?

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  1. Aristotle66

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    The news did not invent Trump's coup. Trump invented the coup. Organized, planned, directed. He watched the violence for three hours without doing anything. A criminal act of negligence.
     
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    Do you really think Trump and his advisors thought breaking into the capital and scaring the hell out of Congress would work towards what he wanted, which was to hold up certification of the transfer of power till an investigation of voter fraud was done? It was stupid of Trump to think that a big crowd would change their minds. He should have allowed things to go through and then demanded a through investigation of voter fraud. I don't think he felt anyone had really done that. They just fluffed it off.
     
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    Absolutely. I expected him to try it. He was a miserably crumb bum his whole life. A petty thug.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did not. This he tweeted about an hour and 30 min. after his speech and the people started their march on the Capital. It was later he made a video and told the people to go home.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/tru...ene-in-violent-capitol-hill-insurrection.html
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet he was well liked by many including Democrats. Was even a Democrat for a long time. Wasn't till he became President it all turned to hate. The Left was calling for his impeachment even before he was sworn in.
     
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    three hours of nothing.

    He was President of the United States. He should have told them to go home from the very beginning.. And they would have.
     
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    No Democrat liked Trump. Nobody actually liked him.
     
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    From the very beginning they were to only protest. He told them to be peaceful and mind the Capital police and they didn't, did they? Why did the bias news leave that part out of the time line and say he said nothing for over three hours? They did it for 4 years, only tell you half the story, or none at all. Now how many times have I showed you that you were wrong in what you said?
     
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    A spewer of falsehood and deception

    Here is your false accusation "So you confirm that a right-winger would consider "good journalism" something that is not objective journalism".

    Show where confirmed this moronic generalization you are accusing me of -
     
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    Hence why I added the word to my post, twice. And he found no evidence of it despite being handed millions of documents, access to Trumps subordinates, access to all financial statements associated with the campaign, 40 forensic auditors, no subpoenas challenged, including for phone records. And overseas help from foreign government intelligence agencies.

    Yet they could find no evidence of collusion/conspiracy.
     
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    thank you for making my point. You so badly want to believe the lies pushed upon you by NPR,CNN et al, that you continue to repeat the lies.

    Why is that?

    Why can't you simply accept that you were duped? Is your Democrat vote so important to you that you must justify it with lies?

    Why double down on lies?
     
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    Media was wrong. It wasn't a coup attempt. It was a riot.
     
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    THAT WASN'T THE ONLY ASPECT OF THE COUP. READ THE EASTMAN MEMO.
     
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    Fox Host Bret Baier Backflips Away From Carlson And Hannity, Insists He’s Not Like Them

    Fox News’ “Special Report” host Bret Baier wants to make it very clear that he isn’t like his hack co-workers at Fox, okay?

    Amid shockwaves over Chris Wallace’s departure to CNN, Baier on Sunday tried to distance his show from fellow Fox host Tucker Carlson, who regularly peddles pro-Trump talking points and misinformation in service of the ex-president.

    “I tell people that the biggest, the loudest critics of Fox are not ones who watch Fox and see the difference between ‘Special Report’ and Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson,” Baier said during an appearance on Fox’s “Media Buzz” program. “I mean, anybody who watches sees the difference.”

    Asked about bombshell revelations of Hannity plus Laura Ingraham and “Fox and Friends” co-host Brian Kilmeade’s panicked texts to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Jan. 6, Baier lamented how “it really stinks” to have to cover news about Fox “because I’m trying to never be the news, and trying to report and cover things fairly.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fox-host-bret-baier-distances-coverage-tucker-carlson-hannity

    No matter how hard Baier tries to get the stench from working at Faux off of him he can't help being tainted by working for a garbage dump of a network spewing lies 24/7.
     
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    Honorable people measure truth by how what is said matches what they have done. It doesn't become good or bad, true or false based on what someone else did.

    The idea that someone else told an untruth so my telling untruths is irrelevant.... is not the invention of the left, but in today's world- they own it.
     
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    Russia Russia Russia BS paid for by Democrats and parroted by Democrat voters like yourself

    would you care to comment about the big lie of Russia Russia Russia which resulted in a sham of an investigation

    maybe pee pee bed too ?
     
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    Peaceful protest to be precise.
     
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    It's a toss-up for me whether those are victims of propaganda or, as you say, the victims of a religious cult. I tend to believe it might be both.
     
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    I couldn't care less what he's charged with. That's up to attorneys. So long as he does prison time it makes no difference to me.

    BTW, I believe "defraud elections" is a slap on the wrist compared to the rest of the crimes he has committed. I want to see him charged with bank fraud, obstruction of justice, perjury, ... a life of crime that he needs to be held accountable for, if we are to still lay claim to being a country of laws.
     
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    Trump wasn't elected to be "liked" by political hacks or lefties. Trump was the American voters giving these folks the middle finger.
     
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    It was neither. It was basically folks walking around taking selfies.
     
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    Which is amazing to me, because I would have thought that about 99% of what Trump DID was negative. So, according to your numbers, it looks like the press actually held back on reporting on some of his egregious acts as President. Or maybe a 24 hour news cycle is just not enough to keep up with reporting on a President as lousy as Trump.
     
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    Oh, I see... By "a right-winger" I mean YOU. But I see why you were confused. However, your confusion is trivial.
     
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    Democracy isn’t worth defending. A republic is. A full blown democracy is no model anyone wants and is often more Tyrannical than a monarch.
     

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