Kansas Governor Breaks With Biden In Appeal To Gop Voters

A lab could tell you which you have. I can assure you that it's not Alpha. As far as your Urgent Care story, what's the point? You said you got tested, did you have it? I'm guessing yes by the way you phrased it so what's your point? The treatment?

 

Guess the point is, I've been sick as a dog for over two weeks. Exactly what did the vaccination do me? I know unvaccinated people that have done better than me when infected. The test didn't do me any good as I was told the treatment would be the same whether I had COVID or not. I think the mandates and expressions of St. Fauci are a bunch of hooey!

 

Well, you're not dead. You're not in the hospital. The vaccine more than likely prevented both. SOME unvaccinated may have done better than you but whatever you have going on in you that the virus went after, they more than likely don't have.
Be thankful.

 

That seems pretty unsubstantiated given the actual data about Omicron. Why not just let the data speak for itself? And yes, omicron infects fully, including booster shot, folks, it doesn't seem to have the potential lethality that the original, even delta did. Why shill for Pfizer here? Even they are worried about their current liability. It's why they had to buy out an autoimmune specialty house to try to quickly develop an antidote to what many are now recognizing as catastrophic side effects from the mRNA anti viral they produced.

Why are the feds hoarding drugs? It sure doesn't look to folks like the federal response is aimed at actually treating folks who might become sick. Peddling yet more shots seems to be their (CDC/FDA, Biden administration)'s collective priority. That seem pretty obviously meant to ensure that the most folks die from their infections. Is that something you support as well given your response?

 

What an astounding presumption. We have about zero comparative data to support your assertion that "more than likely the vaccine" did anything positive. We have seen fully vaxxed folks suffer and die, and we've seen non vexed folks suffer and die, and there is likely zero correlative data to suggest that having been vaccinated produced any prophylactic benefit. Be honest for a change.

 

I have been honest. To say there is no prophylactic benefit is too ridiculous to address.
What you're saying is to do nothing and let it run it's course. That is complete denial of the situation, dangerous and frankly too..........without being censored by the moderators that's all I can say.

 

Perhaps what you really meant to say is... Yup, you're right, there is zero substantive data that demonstrate that the pfizer/moderna shots have in any way reduced or lowered infection rates, or produced any benefit for less severe consequences of being infected. It certainly doesn't stop vaccinated folks from carrying and spreading the virus, does it. Not a question. Empirical fact.

And no, I am not saying "do nothing". I am pointing out that what we are doing isn't effective and only god knows what the long term side effects are going to be. What is a complete denial of what is going on are folks, like you, who demand yet more action in the absence of demonstrable benefit.

 

You don’t know that. There’s never been a controlled study to test for that as it would take years to determine because you’re trying to prove a negative. You’re trying to prove that somebody didn’t get something or someone didn’t go to the hospital for a sickness. You’re trying to prove a negative. It takes years and massive numbers of participants all being tracked to determine that. It’s not like a blood pressure medication where you can measure and see if it worked. Trying to prove a negative takes a massive amount of study.

For all you know he would have handled covid the same way with or without the vaccine.

 

You're wrong and here's why.
You've used the "it take years" argument before but the problem with your point is that in other cases/vaccines you give the vaccine to test subjects and then have to wait for them to be infected. THAT takes a long time. In this case we have millions of cases to compare against already in the past year. The data proves it.

 

Yeah, you point out (falsely) that what we are doing isn't "effective" but the problem is.....compared to what? You say you're not for "do nothing" but the vaccine and masks and lockdowns are the tools we have.

 

Falsely, you say. Ok, show the medical study that demonstrates your assertion. Tic Tok. If you believe absent this demonstration that you cam claim authoritative fact, you're mistaken. Masks, as we know, and the vaccine, as we know do NOT stop vaccinated folks from becoming both infected or being spreaders. Your medical advice is to continue under the assumption that somehow these aren't facts. You'd demand further use of vaccines that aren't in fact vaccines, and don't (demonstrably) have the effect of a vaccine. Because the shots aren't designed to work that way, and you should know that by now. Which is why the CDC had to change their definition of what a vaccine was to include the anti-viral mRNA products. You should know this, and yet you continue to ignore this.

If you feel like you want to live in a locked down world, by all means, self isolate.

 

Ok, first, you didn't answer my question
Second, as I have been saying and you choose to ignore, is that the vaccine was made for a variant that is now (in the US) pretty much gone because of the vaccine and herd immunity so the vaccine works still on the other variants but not as well as the one it was made for (like flu shots). The vaccine, masks and social distancing will absolutely stop the spread but you and people like you have harped on the economy, "freedom", now the new thing is kids and schools where if you actually did what was asked we could have gotten ahead of the problem but you live in denial of actual facts so.....here we are.
If you haven't noticed, this is a WORLDWIDE problem but here in the US your like whine because all you care about is.....you. How many die? You don't care (over 5 million so far). I personally find your self righteous selfishness disgusting.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...-and-physical-distancing-affirmed-by-analysis

Whataboutisms/denial starts in.........5,4,3,2......

 

Correct that the vax was made for earlier varients .. incorrect that vax does anything significant to prevent transmission .. and adding masks and social distancing to the equation has completely failed .. so you are the one in denial of the facts.

The only way to prevent transmission is to do a complete lockdown .. like that done in Australia.

 

Incorrect on both counts and because of your (and those that think like you) refusal to get the shot the band plays on.

Plus, get vaccinated.

 

Typical... I bet that Tyrant Tony (Evers) will attempt to play nice here in Wisconsin as well. He's been a lying SOB his whole time of being installed into the governor's seat in the same manner that Joe Biden was installed into the White House. We're trying to get our election fraud issues under control and can hopefully get Tyrant Tony ousted at the end of this year.

 

Vaccination does not stop the spread and neither do lockdowns. Australia will face the virus sooner or later. We shut down schools to protect our kids. We should also keep them out of automobiles which causes a far higher death rate than COVID. I am not trading in my common sense for faith in government. Had my vaccine and I have COVID. Took my doctors advice, made my own decision, and in no way was I going to FORCE anyone to make my decision. They say my COVID would be much worse had I not been vaccinated.....but then again, I would have to favor my belief in government over my own common sense to believe that! Natural immunity will eventually defeat this and all the Doctors and drug companies will take credit. That includes the creators of this virus! We know as a fact that Dr. Fauci sent U.S. money to fund those studies! (Gain of Function Research)

 

You have a weird thought process going on there. In this case because of the variant, no the vaccine does not stop the spread because the vaccinated are contagious for a shorter period. Lockdowns stop the spread if people play by the rules but so many "patriots" think it's their "right" to not play by the rules because it's their "god given right". You wouldn't be trading your "common sense" for trusting the government, you would be trusting science. So, now that your whole logic has fallen apart how about you go back to trusting science and get people to get vaccinated and stop with the political correct BS of "no way was I going to FORCE" people. Your part of the problem.
There have been over 9 billion shots given around the world over 2 years. How much convincing do you need to know getting the shot is the way to go. You're alive because of it.

 

Sorry mate - Vax does not significantly prevent transmission - and jumping on the Anti-Science Blue bandwagon crying NO NO NO will not change this


CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

 

So math is not your best science
Fact: The vaccinated are contagious for a shorter period of time
If you isolate yourself you will cut down on spreading covid........but the unvaccinated don't isolate themselves.

 

My math is far better than yours .. as is my understanding of transmission .. and your "Fact" is proven false by the London Study.. and your claim that the unvaxed do not isolate is fallacious nonsense on steroids.

What is cearly lacking your ability to read/understand English ..

What part of CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID - did you not understand ?

 

Talk about "WEIRD THOUGHT PROCESSES". I was told by several in the NEWS Business, including St, Fauci, that after I get vaccinated, that is where Covid stops. But YOUR thought process is that I need to follow along and believe them. All lockdowns do is stave off natural immunity. Vaccines and medical treatment should be reserved for the vulnerable. I know having Covid is frustrating but so is the flu. One has to have faith he will overcome and most all do. The government does discount the ideas of many in the medical field because it deprives them of the CONTROL they so desire. This is why you hear very little if anything about God-given natural immunity from any of them. There has been admonitions to stop GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH as it is quite dangerous, but from what I understand, it still goes on.
Incidentally, you talk about trusting science.....well St. Fauci says he is science and he said the vaccine would stop Covid. He is also "government" and I believe that takes preference over science!

 

The nation hopes Wisconsin can't get things under control.

Other dems are speaking out against Biden...

 

That's some LOL stuff you have there. You clearly didn't read what I wrote. If you did, you sadly have a comprehension problem. As far as the unvaccinated and your "fallacious nonsense" comment, the fact that there is 2 yrs of data supporting to reason/fact to get vaccinated and yet they selfishly do not with NOTHING with science data to back such a decision other than that of child not wanting to eat vegetables.

 

Yes, that is true. Couple of questions. When did you get vaccinated and when did you catch it? If you have been paying attention (you haven't) I said (many times) that the vaccine was made to combat the original Alpha variant. Along comes Delta (from India....worldwide pandemic remember) while the vaccine has just started here in the US. The Delta spread like wildfire, faster than the vaccine could be distributed, especially to a billion people in India, so that's a problem. The vaccine is good against Delta but not as good as against Alpha (just like seasonal flu shots). Here in the US we have millions of numbnuts that refuse to get vaccinated for simply selfish reasons. There is no health/science reason to avoid it. Now we have (because of the numbnuts around the world ANOTHER variant so, again, the vaccine made for A is not as effective against O but still good to fight the virus.

Utter nonsense. Control over what. This argument makes zero sense.

God also gave us the virus so he really doesn't have a dog in this fight. Natural immunity is good. Natural immunity combined with the vaccine is better. So you're better than most and should be thankful rather than arguing against the people that helped you. What your "natural immunity" argument logic is saying is let it run it's course and then we will all be better. I guess to you that with 5 million dead so far is no big deal and those that come with getting to "natural immunity" well........too bad for them. Sad.

If you actually knew what it was you would understand that it has to go on. You don't on both counts

In trying to be clever here you unfortunately don't make sense.

 

It’s not that simple. Transmission isn’t based on just duration of viable viron shedding. Vaccinated infected individuals are twice as likely to be asymptomatic as non vaxxed infected individuals. That means around 70-80% of infected vaxxed individuals never isolate or even get tested. Because of this and the fact peak viral load is similar to unvaxxed infections they drive asymptomatic transmission. That’s just one example of why vaxxed can and do transmit nearly identically to unvaxxed.