How is this countenanced by Repubs?

Richard Painter, a frequent critic or President Trump's and former chief ethics lawyer for the George W. Bush administration, on Monday called for Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) to be expelled from the House after he shared a meme that imagines a modern day civil war.

"This is treason," Painter, who switched parties and ran in a Democratic primary for a Minnesota Senate seat last year, tweeted. "Steve King should be expelled from the House immediately."
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...-steve-king-expulsion-after-he-posted-meme-of

I assume everyone remembers Stevo. He had his committee memberships taken away for exposing his view that there's nothing wrong with terms like white supremacist. It's not surprising he would feel at liberty to express such thought during the error of Trump. After all, Don invited him to the Oval Office and bragged about raising campaign money for his racist BFF. To their credit, even Repubs acted to censor King.

That was then, this is now.

Greene Tiptoes Up To The Line Of Arguing That Guns Should Be Used Against Dems

She was responding to a question from Gorka about Georgia’s Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams recent call for gun reform in the state. As no newbie to violent threats — and the repercussions of said threats — Greene even seemed to catch herself toward the end of the diatribe, calling her pseudo-violent remarks a “shame” and suggesting Americans “shouldn’t have to think that way,” before attempting to cast the call-to-arms as an innocent defense of state rights.

Here’s the full quote:

“Ultimately the truth is it’s our Second Amendment rights, our right to bear arms, that protects Americans and give us the ability to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government. And I hate to use this language but Democrats, they’re exactly — they’re doing exactly what our founders talked about when they gave us the precious rights that we have.”

“And you know, no one wants violence and I say all the time I am not a violent person. I hope to never see a civil war in this country (wink) and that’s why you hear me toss around ‘national divorce.’ The federal government has grown so big and the Democrats are willing to use the power of the federal government, that it really violates people’s rights and that’s why state rights are so important. It’s a shame, we shouldn’t think that way, but I don’t know what’s going to happen in the future, but we always have to make sure that we are defending our Second Amendment rights and making sure that our state rights are protected.”
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblo...-should-be-used-against-dems-second-amendment

It's a sign of just how radicalized some Repub voters have become that a nut case like Greene could be elected in the first place. She wasn't elected as a closeted racist as King was. The voters knew what a POS she was from the beginning and elected her anyway.

Perhaps worst still, she has not been censored by Repub leadership and no Repub has recommended her expulsion from Congress (that I'm aware of).

The House on Thursday took the extraordinary step of ousting a lawmaker from two congressional committees, exiling Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia for endorsing the executions of Democrats and spreading dangerous and bigoted misinformation even as her fellow Republicans rallied around her.

In a move without precedent in the modern Congress, the House voted 230 to 199— over near-unanimous Republican opposition — to remove Ms. Greene from the Education and Budget Committees.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/us/marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments.html

For Repubs she's just crazy Marjorie, and folks like McCarthy are cool with it. She spoke openly about using guns against Dems, justified by hyperbolically equating public health measures to fight COVID with tyranny. She did so knowing there'd be no consequence. Probably thinking it would enhance her chances of re-election. Along with the other batshyte crazy things she's said.

How is this countenanced by Repubs?

 

If folks actually think our current government is acting in a way that the Founding Fathers would want an armed violent revolution to stop, then the hyperbole and media sensationalism has completely warped your brain.

Completely. You are gone. There's nobody upstairs. The attic is empty. Ain't no silverware in your drawer.

For God's sake get ahold of yourselves.

 

When Maxine is censored then you may have a leg to stand on.

 

So the meme says something about a civil war and then says “one side has 6 trillion bullets and the other side doesn’t know which bathroom to use”
So what?
I have a great idea though. Instead of calling this “posting a meme” , let’s call it “insurrection”
It packs more oomph that way

 

I'll be sure to file that under the category it belongs in, the "Pathetic False Equivalence" file.

 

I suggest you read the Declaration of Independence. I would proffer that a MUCH more egregious list of wrong doings by the federal government from today could be created than what was put forth in the DOI.

 

If you're willing to condemn one but not the other they make a word just for that scenario... Three guesses and the first two don't count

 

I don't agree with elected officials being expelled (except for high crimes and misdemeanors) from office. That should be up to the voters. But he does need to be censured and removed from all committees. They did it with Liz Cheney for not putting her country before covering up Trump's crimes .

 

I'm willing to look at each case individually with the understanding telling people to confront Cabinet members for their despicable acts is not equivalent to the suggestion 2nd A remedies should be applied. You're only using a false equivalence because you can't find a way to defend Greene............we both know that.

 

That approach ensures abhorrent behavior on the part of Repubs from radicalized districts will essentially go unpunished.

 

If it's not abhorrent enough to raise to the level of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", punishment should be up to the voters. I didn't agree with Al Franken or David Vitter or Mark Foley (though what the latter two did was probably illegal in their states) being removed. Censure and removal from committees and of any benefits should have sent the message to the voters.

 

Yours is a defensible position. But Repubs knowing outrageous behavior, like overt suggestions violence is a way to settle political differences, while going essentially unpunished within the structure of Congress is just another sign of the degradation of previously accepted norms and a breakdown of democracy.

 

Really? Would you care to make up such a list?

 

I don't give a **** about the Declaration of Independence in the context of this discussion. It's not a government document. The United States government did not even exist when it was created.

 

Oh please she called for public mob harassment of elected officials.

And mob harassment can easily turn to violence.

Nice try attempting to downplay it though

 

The Declaration of Independence gives the causes the founders had for declaring war. Given that those are what led to them starting the revolution, it’s completely germane to whether or not those same men would take up arms today.

 

She did. Get back to me when you find a quote where Waters suggests the "right to bear arms" has any place in expressing displeasure with the immigration policy of separating families and putting kids in cages and I'll concede the point. Otherwise, there is no comparison to what each of them said.

 

You only think it's a false equivalence because you're a Democrat and you'll support same no matter.how egregious their behavior.

 

Well it's obvious that what both of them said was irresponsible and provocative.

But of course you'll find some qualifier why one's worse than the other

 

That qualifier being the use of guns. Thanks for conceding the point.

 

If the Founding fathers saw the way the country is being ran, they would roll over in their graves. Worthy of a civil war, probably not, but the push towards that seems never ending.

 

I didn't concede a single thing you simply did exactly what I would expect you to do.

I'm sure if someone were a victim of mob violence they could take solace in the fact that perhaps they would be beat with a baseball bat instead of shot with a gun?

And with the sort of radical left nut bags that Maxine was appealing to there's no guarantee they wouldn't be armed.

 

Oh sure.

Government spying on its people.

Complete and utter violation of the 10th amendment

Debt

Taxation in about every form imaginable

A media that is completely biased one way or the other

Policing the world


Should I keep going?

 

Which will be 100% based on the letter following their name.

 

I see what you did there. In order to defend your position you had to escalate the assertion in to mob violence. As in people being beaten with a bat. Why stop there? Why not speculate someone could have brought a dirty bomb and wiped out a whole city?
One can make up all manner of fantastical scenarios if one finds himself on the wrong side of a debate. I'm done here.