Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Securit

Who gave the order to use lethal force instead of a non-lethal weapon which is available in the Capitol arsenal? Ashli did not need to die.

 

Sorry but the officer doesn't get to kill one person because someone else it committing some crime. And imminent threat is not behind a door. There was no imminent victim on the officer side of the door. He had not even seen her hands to determine if she was armed. She wasn't even resisting an arrest as no attempt to arrest her had even been made. Trespassing is a misdemeanor that is what the rioters are being charged with, since when does a misdeamnor require lethal force to stop it.

Tell me had she simple jumped through the window, landed on feet facing officer Byrd, her hands at her side empty, would he have been justified to kill her on the spot? No warning, no put your hands up, no your under arrest. Just as he did, shot and kill her.

 

You're as manic as that mob. I never said I heard him yell "anything", his testimony is he yelled a warning. But, three absolutely were several warnings of "gun" before Ashli Babbitt jumped through that window.

No single officer could have subdued that mob if they'd have followed her through the window.

How was Lt.Byrd supposed to get to the Capitol armory without deserting his post?

 

If the CP and overseer Pelosi had enough security that day... Ashli would not have been there to shoot in the first place.

 

You are reading things into the article as you were meant to. It doesn't actually say he refused anything, it insinuates he did.

You don't even know what "color of law means", nothing in your article says he didn't file an after shooting report report.

Breaking into our Capitol to interfere with Congressional business isn't a misdemeanor, and he WAS charged with protecting Congress, which he did potentially saving many lives.

It's a shame Ashli Babbitt, and so many others, were duped by Benedict Donald's lies.

 

An interesting question and certainly not a method of operating suggested by my statement. Do you have a bias?

A democratic government that tolerates violence is breaking faith with the people.

 

Let me reduce the number of words so it won’t be so complicated:

Post the statute

Or is three too many?

 

Yes

 

Trump did nothing for HOURS. He failed to protect the Capitol. There's no excuse for that.

 

It's a shame the event was allowed to progress to the fever it did because of the totally lacked of security that should have been there to protect the Capitol, the congress, and the people who visit everyday...

 

I am reading what IS in it you should try it. The rioters are being charged with misdemeanor trespassing. That is ALL Byrd witnessed Babbitt engage in. Believing Trump shouldn't put a wanted dead or alive preferably dead target on your back.

Was the police shooting of Ashli Babbitt justified?

"The use of force policy along with training is important for one huge reason. From video of the incident, an unarmed woman was shot for committing misdemeanor crimes. We know that because the vast majority of the charges were for trespassing on Capitol grounds and it is apparent in the video that at the time of her death, Babbitt was trespassing and likely committing vandalism and disorderly conduct. When shot, there were other law enforcement officers around her and there were many others in her vicinity.

• Why was she shot and no one else?
• What policy enables a police officer to shoot an unarmed person that was not committing a felony crime?
• What training did Lt. Byrd attend that told him to take this action?
• Does his training permit him to shoot without taking into account the backdrop that included other police officers?
• What is the use of force history with Lt. Byrd and how many times has he pointed his weapon prior to this?

I had even more questions when the Department of Justice not only cleared Lt. Byrd of any wrongdoing but decided not to conduct any investigation into the agency that would have included an analysis of their policy and training. The Capitol Police investigated the shooting and also cleared Lt. Byrd of any wrongdoing.

• Considering the DOJ has launched numerous investigations when law enforcement shoots “armed” suspects committing violent crimes, why the change here?
• Why would the Capitol Police investigate their own when it is common practice to utilize a third party to do so?
• Why have no details of the investigation been released when no other agency could get away with such secrecy?

The article also poses this question, my additional information inserted

An officer of one race, shoots and kills a suspect of another race that was committing a misdemeanor crime. The suspect was unarmed and no other less lethal means including an attempt of an arrest, Taser, etc. was even used and despite this, the officer claims it had to be done as “a last resort.” Following the shooting, the officer refuses to cooperate and give a statement, the officer does not invoke a 5th amendment right and is not pressed to give a statement by the police or prosecutors, the agency did not release any information including the policy or training or information on the officer. The agency investigated it, without releasing a report, and cleared the officer of all wrong doing and the officer is hailed a hero for saving lives. The officer is given his job back.

There would have been riots in the street.

It goes on.

We believe that anyone committing a crime that day should be held accountable but was the death of Ashli Babbitt justified?

We are being told it was but from what we know today, it clearly was not.

• Is there a policy that says deadly force is justified against misdemeanor suspects entering the United States Congress?
• Are there signs posted that says those entering without permission may be shot?
• If so many lives were in danger, why not a single shot from another officer?
• “Last Resort” deadly force policy dictates that “all other means” of stopping the suspect must be utilized. What attempts, other than verbal commands (that we have not seen video of) were used?
• Does the Capitol Police have the authority to shoot individuals that come up to members of congress “unarmed” even if they appear agitated?
• Lt. Byrd said that he saved “countless” lives that day but would a reasonable officer believe that an unarmed crowd, even upset and potentially assaultive, was going to turn into mass murder? If so, how did these police shootings not happen literally every day for a year following the violent riots after the death of George Floyd?

https://www.lawofficer.com/michael-byrd/

 

Really. She put on a demonstration of some of her skills to PE classes. She might not be perceived as a threat by some untrained people, giving her the element of surprise.

 

A few things worth noting here

1. The author of this article didn't even get the abbreviation for the department right. The department he is referring to is the MPDC

2. The MPDC is not a branch of the Justice Department

3. Michael Byrd is not employed by the MPDC, he is employed by the USCP

4. Just because Byrd declined to make a statement to the MPDC in January of 2021 doesn't mean he wasn't interviewed by investigators from the Justice Department, or the USCP... or that he was not interviewed by the MPDC at a later date for that matter


This whole claim is very flimsy

 

Trump did nothing while the Capitol was attacked. He failed to do his duty.

 

False he tweeted within 30 minutes of the breech for them to respect the orders of the police and be peaceful, he did again 30 later. It is not the President job to protect the Capital in a domestic disturbance he has no jurisdiction how times does that have to be pointed out. The Capital police through the Sargent of Arms of the House to the Speaker carry the duty of Capital Security. And the DC police the surrounding area.

 

Trump is not the one responsible for protecting the capitol. Pelosi and her ilk and the CP are.. it is their job... it is their responsibility...it is what they are paid for..... they failed... their is no excuse for their failure.... Trump did all he could when he approved the guard and it was up to the CP and the overseer Pelosi to utilize the guard offered to provide the needed security.

 

" The case was investigated by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department. The administrative investigation was launched after the criminal investigation was closed."
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/p...rnal-investigation-january-6-officer-involved

 

So you've said. Maybe someday you'll find someone to agree with you.

 

Done. I agree with popscott.

 

Except the Capitol was closed that day.

 

Sweet, two more and you can start a Bridge Club.

2 in 340 million Americans, whooo, impressive.

 

So, you figure a tweet discharges his responsibility?

 

The circumstances make a difference.

 

I'm missing how that contradicts anything I just posted

This incident was investigated by the Justice Department, the USCP, and the MPDC. Officer Byrd isn't employed by the MPDC, if we are talking about an administrative investigation, it is not their jurisdiction to implement disciplinary action since he does not work for them. He works for the USCP

MPDC are the police who patrol the city of DC
USCP are the police who patrol the Capitol Building

 

So you admit you failed. Got any more dopey comments to make?