Swing State Trumpers Forged Electoral Letters in Harebrained Scheme to Overturn Biden’s Win

I'm neither a fan nor a publicity agent for them. They're radical nutjobs. Unfortunately, it seems that their radical nuttery is spreading to the wider online community.

They won't do any time. What they did was clearly protected speech under the First Amendment. I do credit you though for being closer to the reality on this than some of your compatriots.

 

LOL! You've badly misunderstood what happened here. It's going to be funny watching you figure it out, if you ever do.

 

Oh no, I understand it quite well. But thanks for your fake concern, which is of no concern to me at all.

 

Yes, I do care about the Constitution. That’s why I fully support Republican election integrity efforts at the state level to resolve such issues as which part of the state government has the Constitutional authority to decide Electoral College votes. Is it the state Office of the Secretary of State? I certainly hope not. Is it the state legislative body as a whole? I certainly hope so.

 

For starters, nobody's name was "forged" and nobody signed any documents as / for anybody but themselves on this matter. There's no "forger" to be found or sued. The Republican slate of electors in these states did the exact same thing that the Democrat slate of electors did in Hawaii in 1960, hoping for a similar outcome. It was no more "sedition" in 2020 than it was in 1960.

1960 United States presidential election in Hawaii - Wikipedia

You need to familiarize yourself with some history.

 

Trump did more than any other figure in US history to try to reverse the results of a presidential election. He pressured lawmakers, state officials, the DOJ, and his own VP to reverse the results of the election. The EC made their decision. Trump had to reverse that decision. He tried to have the EC votes of 5 entire states entirely disqualified. The ultimate goal was just to cut the EC out all together and have the House vote instead.

If you care about the Constitution, cool. If that's the case, you should be seething about Trump's attempt to burn it all to the ground just to remain in power.

 

I am well aware of this history, it was about a nail biter in a number of states, the difference being that both slates of electors were sent directly to the Governor's desk and not independently to the national archives. You forgot that little detail, now didn't you. So, no, 1960 is not like 2020. Try again, this time with some talent.

 

Did you not read the one measly paragraph from Wikipedia I quoted? Here, try reading just this one sentence: "Both certificates had arrived in Washington by the time Congress convened in January 1961". How do you suppose certificates from both slates of electors ended up in Washington? Do you think they sprouted wings and flew there on their own? Or were they both sent there "independently"?

 

Then let’s ensure that the state alone, and not the federal government, decides who the electors are and how they vote. And let’s ensure it’s known precisely which part of that state’s government has the Constitutional authority to accomplish that.

 

That's already how it is supposed to work. Trump tried to overturn that. Again, Trump and his followers represent the greatest domestic threat to our democracy. I agree that maybe some legislative solutions will help us protect ourselves against their attacks, but it doesn't change his toxicity. Saying, "Well, let's protect ourselves against his toxicity" doesn't change the fact that he's toxic.

 

Let's revisit your previous post for a moment:

Do you now realize that nothing like this happened? Nobody forged anybody's name. The people "whose name was given as an "elector"" were giving their own names, as Republican electors, just like the Dem electors in Hawaii in 1960 did. This wasn't some secret plot with unknown actors. It was widely publicized at the time, more than a year ago. This isn't some secret that Rolling Stone just uncovered. Here's a tweet from December 2020, still up today, announcing the whole thing, and the reasoning behind it:

PA GOP on Twitter: "BREAKING: REPUBLICAN ELECTORS CAST PROCEDURAL VOTE , SEEK TO PRESERVE TRUMP CAMPAIGN LEGAL CHALLENGE https://t.co/XVWuR5WzvN" / Twitter



Nothing about this even remotely approaches a rational definition of "forgery" or fraud, but leftists' destruction of the English language continues apace.

 

these people are friggen nuts and should be in jail

 

What was happening in each of these states is the legislature was try to create an alternate slate of Electors to the one certified by the Sec. of State (I think in most cases), which should be legitimate. What was not legitimate, as far as I know, is the forging of documents. Yeah, the whole thing was a CJ. It is the legislatures in these states to sort that out before it can happen again.

But, as is true even in the federal government, there will always be struggles for power between the various branches of government.

 

Yadda, yadda, yadda. All the silly, trite mantras your programers taught you. You do know THEY told us how they did it, right - Cover story on Time magazine. Oh and $400,000,000 from Zuckerberg.

 

And . . .? Michigan Democrats don't lie?

 

That makes no sense.

Neither.

 

Each of those states had actual laws governing how their electors are to be selected (as the Founders intended). These "alternates" violated those laws. And that's not the only way in which Trump tried to overthrow the election.

What you are describing isn't a struggle for power between branches. It is a struggle between Trump and his goons against the Constitution.

 

Each state is different and has their own rules on how their process to assign and cast those electors

Civics 101

 

I'm sorry you believe that objective truth is a "trite mantra." I disagree. I'm rather partial to reality over your figurehead's lies. Or are you just repeating the trite mantras Trump's programmers taught you?

 

Yeah … that happened in all 50 states. Trump tried to use the federal government (VP, Congress) to ignore some of the electors that had been sent by the states.

 

Not the same thing....at all. Come on man!!

 

So, you don't think this goes past "playing dirty".

 

And you are clearly denying reality.

 

When they sealed, put a stamp, then mailed, it is now a federal conspiracy.

 

I would not bet on that

It has been referred to the federal justice department and the states involved are not washing their hands of it either - I know you might have to grit your teeth but I suggest you watch Rachel Maddow as she has been reporting on this