Why the Right and Left hate each other

I don't hate anyone, I just don't care for what they have become, stand for from what my Democrat parents were in the 50-60's..

 

Well said. One of the basic tenets of communism/Marxism is the destruction of the past history and culture. Mao was no different.

 

And our present day Cultural Marxists are no different, either. The progressives want to erase history and culture.Observe the toppling of statues for one example.

That is why cons ad progs hate each other. They have diametrically opposed views o cultural preservation.

 

I am not a lawyer so I will not speak in lawyereez. You asked my how I "feel" about later amendments (13-15) specifically. As a student of history, I will "explain" how I feel.
I will start with the first lines of the Declaration of Independence. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain, unalienable rights." I "feel" that without that Declaration, there would be no Constitution. As a follower of Jesus, I do believe ALL men (and women for modernists that don't understand men often means humankind) are equal in the eyes of God. If someone better schooled could show me in the Constitution that men with darker skin tone are subhuman and destined to be property I would appreciate that, but I am going to assume it doesn't. Because it doesn't I will submit any laws that expressed the right to own other men were ALWAYS in error. All the 13-15 amendments did was clarify that those rights are part of the unalienable rights of both men and women. The Bill of rights applies to them all. So in no way, do I "feel" 13-15 nullifies the 10th! I do not believe one large mistake, justifies another. This Nation lost over a half million lives to set right the 1st mistake. It affected my own family for generations. In spite of this, we must acknowledge there were many who signed that Constitution who were Christian and of the belief that slavery was abhorrent. However, unity and Independence was the pressing matter and Providence eventually resolved the evil of slavery.

 

perhaps the wise ass on the hill can explain ......

 

I may be wrong about Mao, but abandoning old cultural icons is not a notable characteristic of Marxism. This discussion is about blindly repeating a wingnut media claim that Democrats are Marxist. The question is "what is Marxism?". There is one notable characteristic: absolute war against capitalism. That is most likely the MAIN them in Marx's writings. So anybody who makes the absurd claim but doesn't address this is just blindly repeating a right-wingnut talking point

 

Very correct, but the bone is how. From one summary:
Marx described three necessary phases toward achieving his idea of utopia.
Phase 1: A revolution must take place in order to overthrow the existing government. Marx emphasized the need for total destruction of the existing system in order to move on to Phase 2. (emphasis mine)

 

Abandoning old cultural icons is a characteristic of all revolutionary movements, not just Marxist ones. We can see the left destroying old cultural icons today. That is what the culture war is about. And my favorite quote from Marx is:

“The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.”

― Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte

So Karl Marx would approve of the culture war.

 

When most Americans think of Marxism, we think of Collectivism and a loss of rights of the Individual. Actually, that comes with anything short of "America 1st Policy." Globalists tend to use American tax dollars to subsidize other Nations or just enhance their trade positions. This is why Mark Levin defines it as "American Marxism" in his book. He lays out the case rather well and calls out American educators that are unabashedly Marxist. We also see business ties to Communist China from some of our favorite politicians......Biden, Pelosi, Bush's, John Baener and many more! It is a joint effort of the Deep State and it's followers.

 

No. The bone is WHAT. You claimed that Democrats are Marxists. We agree that one major characteristic of Marxism is to overturn Capitalism. So to make that claim you would need to show that Democrats are attempting to overturn Capitalism. That George Soros and Bill Gates (if you believe, like most right-wingers do, that those are helping Democrats achieve their ultimate goal) want to be poor like everybody else. That is your burden.

 

Therefore it does not define "Marxism", and therefore it's irrelevant to this discussion. Which is my point.

 

Done on purpose, IMO.
If they get the people pointing fingers, it's easier for the elite to set up a system where they hardly ever can get voted out.

 

Depends on what you mean by "most" Americans. Most Americans have no clue what Marxism is. Marxism is a very well defined ideology. So most of them can be easily fooled by ignorant pundits like Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity. But if somebody who is not a clown, like those, is going to accuse Democrats of being "Marxists", they damn well have a good idea of what it actually IS. Not what they "think" it is.

 

I'm sorry you brought it up.

 

Let's get something straight on this "left vs right" thing. For many decades now communism has been trying to take over the planet. In the last century communism caused more death and misery than anything in history. Hitler could not have murdered as many as communism did in his wildest dreams. Racism could not have oppressed as many as communism did and still does today.

The "left" is communism in disguise. This is how communism comes to power. It does not openly say what it is and where it will end up. Communism has to disguise itself as something for the "greater good" of humanity but is actually a plague on humanity.

There is no "left vs right". There is only the left vs folks who want to be free and to be treated with dignity.

 

the "globalists" are capitalists. multi national corporations using their control of governments to avoid taxes and acquire resources.

 

I believe if you took the time to read Mark Levin's book, you would see the Marxist influence on the direction of the Democrat Party is pretty well laid out. Perhaps Levin is more intellectual than you would care to engage.

 

partly correct.....they would sell their soul to the Marxists to make a buck. Like Hunter Biden and the Biden Crime Family.

 

I wouldn't call liberals leftists. Communists and socialists are leftists.

 

corporations have souls?

 

But Marx wasn't a liberal. He disliked democracy too.
He preferred dictatorship thru a Communist party.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf

 

to these guys, any system that taxes and regulates has the power to control and, thus IS communist.

i know, to me that is a long stretch, but they have been making it for a long time.

 

Taxes aren't generally bad. The fire brigade, police, judiciary, and administration also need money. These aren't Marxist inventions.

 

The left are in support of dictatorships. They may claim they are not but when things don’t go their way they will be the first to talk about court packing, filibuster removals, forceful federal takeovers of state ran elections, etc.

 

While Marxism may be considered "left", one need not hold to that ideology in order to be left of the "right".