Biden calls for ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines in SOTU speech

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  1. Joe knows

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-ban-assault-weapons-high-capacity-magazines-sotu-speech

    If you think the Ukrainians are a resilient crowd, try and take guns away from Americans. You’ll find out what resilient is.

    there are quotes dating back to our founders that claim the constitution provides the people the same sword and shield of a soldier. And that no state or federal government has the power to regulate arms. The second amendment has nothing to do about hunting deer. The quotes prove that and Biden’s knowledge of our constitution is officially proven to be lacking.

    I won’t waiver on my right to bear arms!!! This is one of the largest reasons I hate Trump as well. Taking my right away to bear arms is not in his authority, no where in the constitution does it permit it. The argument that no right is limitless is false. The original design was definitely designed to be that way and on top of that it was enshrined into a constitution, this isn’t some law that can be changed without going through the proper avenues prescribed in the constitution. You can’t make it what you want it to be, it is what it is period and excla-damn-mation point!!!
     
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    Well said... except for the Trump part. He didn't restrict anything I know of except "bump stocks". And that concession may have saved all our weapons.
     
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    IIRC, I think @Joe knows is ticked with Trump because he said "Take the guns first. Due process second." or something close to that. Also, I'm exhausted right now but I believe Joe is into hunting so he stays close to those topics from the WH.

    Disclaimer: I'm not speaking for him.
     
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    Bump Stocks made me mad and so did what he said about due process and arms. He also was entertaining the idea to ban silencers. He even got the NRA to help draft the wording to ban bump stocks. He was horrible for guns.
     
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    Guns are a great hobby. Now retired, I find reloading to be as peaceful and calm for the blood pressure as sailing. Nothing like going out into the boonies with family and friends, then setting up targets and having some friendly competition. Fun, fresh air... fun stuff.
     
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    Yeah, I was around when you went 0-to-10 on that. ;-)
     
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    As part of Texas' new gun law which allows "Constitutional Carry" (Open or concealed carry almost anywhere without any permits or registrations), Texans can now buy silencers which are made totally within Texas without being bothered with any federal regulation.
     
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    Saving guns is not banning parts to them. What Trump done with bump stocks is probably the most encroaching thing ever passed against our gun rights in history.

    • he done it with absolutely no congressional approval
    • it was the first ever confiscation/destruction decree in our history for anything firearm related
    • not only did it violate our right to bear, it violated property rights by forcing the destruction or confiscation without due process or warrant which is strictly prohibited by the constitution
    • He got the NRA to turn their backs on gun owners


    What’s to stop the next guy from redefining an automatic rifle as any firearm that automatically loads the next round? He set multiple precedents that have never been done before. He was the absolute worst and I mean worst, beyond all measures for our gun rights. I will never vote for him again. It absolutely makes me sick I was a part of voting in the guy that done that.
     
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    I guarantee there are people out there who did not get rid of their bump stocks and when one gets caught I will find a way to donate to his or her legal team.
     
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    My next guns (wife wants one too) will be a Kel Tec P50.
     
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    Nice!
     
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    I also find reloading to be therapeutic. I put on some music, pour some single malt, and get into a rhythm. Here in CA, ammo purchases require a background check, so each pull of the handle on my Hornady lock n load, is even more satisfying.
     
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    Every other day, Democrats bring up a ban on 'assault weapons' and 'high-capacity magazines',
    The next day, they tell you you;re crazy if you think anyone will ban guns.
     
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    Biden spent at least a couple sentences of his SOTU speech to praise the spirit of the Iranians. (well, you know what he meant...LMAO) And while Zelinsky begs for more ammo, Biden thinks its time to defang the american people. Why? Canadian Emergency powers act usage comes to mind. Biden just thinks it's ok to assault and batter your imaginary enemies behind the bike racks... He's not willing to let you defend yourself against his thugs though.
     
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    Funny how he (and his fellow liberals) are all for providing these very same guns to the Ukrainians to protect themselves and their freedoms, yet he wants to take away all of these very same guns from US??

    Do liberals truly not see the disconnect in their views here?
     
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    I like Trump a lot, but the bump stock thing did bother me. It is still an infringement on the 2nd amendment all the same.
     
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    While I'm not against Trump like you are because of this, I do agree with your frustration about it.
     
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    ... and then the day after that, they tell you that providing guns to Ukraine for them to fight back against Russia and protect their freedom is a good thing... yet it's not a good thing for you here in the States to be able to do that very same thing.

    Funny, isn't it?
     
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    Lol, I love it. Reloading is a good time if you can find the components anymore.
     
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    Here in CA, any magazine over 10 rounds is "high capacity" Im not sure how they came up with that number.
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    Last year only 2% of murders were committed using a rifle of any kind.

    And it strikes me that, as we watch Ukrainian civilians desperately fighting for their country, this is one hell of a time to be trying to outlaw certain kinds of rifles and trying to persecute gun manufacturers in our country.

    Smh at Brandon …
     
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    The people leading America's political parties (both Democrat and Republican) are not as a pro-gun rights as the majority of America's voter population.
    That is something a lot of Conservative voters do not seem to realize.

    Let's took a look at the Republican Party here specifically, and let's also only look at the male politicians and male voters, to emphasize the point. There is a huge disconnect between the voters and the actual views of the people running the party. In fact many times the leaders will just refrain from saying things that express their actual beliefs on certain issues because they know it will not go down well with the voters. It is better for them to just remain quiet. Sometimes they will vote with the Democrats if they get the chance.
     
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    At least he didnt tell everyone to use their shotguns in an illegal and unsafe manner ...again.
     
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    Just to let everyone know, gun manufacturers can be sued, when their product malfunctions and does not do what the buyer assumes it will do.

    Claiming they are the only industry in America that can't be sued is as ridiculous as claiming a piano store can be sued because the Boston strangler used piano wire he bought at their store.

    Everyone knows this is just a disingenuous backdoor attempt at tearing away gun rights and shifting the blame for crimes onto guns rather than the individuals who commit them.

    Are we also going to let a woman sue her city because she got raped because her local city wouldn't legally allow her to carry a concealed gun in her purse?

    Everyone knows how absurd this is, but some people just convince themselves it sounds like a logical and good idea. (Another example of self intellectual dishonesty so prevalent on this side, in my opinion)
     
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    They're convincing themselves that it will only be used against people and products they dont like, and surely never themselves. They're just machiavelians for whom the ends justify the means. Its unlikely they'll even realize its their own fault when the rights they value are also effectively banned bureaucratically as a result of the precedent they set trying to use the force of law to control others.

    And just like the 'war on drugs', it will only empower the black market to meet demand without any meaningful impact on the prolifertion of the products themselves.
     
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