Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

Some kook from Chile who lives in Kharkiv spouts off with his opinions and you think that represents the truth, while all of the documented evidence I and others are regularly providing is somehow not the truth.

 

One hates to think what the Russian people are being told..........considering that any independent media (news) is being shut down..

 

As opposed to some kook who doesn't live in Ukraine or has never been to Ukraine and believes all the bullshit spewed by the fake news media and the fake Ukrainian Media... said media that is owned and dominated by one Igor Kolomoisky who happens to have financed Zelensky...in his media career and political career. Kolomoisky the biggest shitbag in Europe.

Yeah, I'll go with the kook that has a clue as opposed to you.

 

My motivation for unpicking the dissembling & dishonest threads of your posts is low. You have exposed yourself as a cheerleader for dictatorship. That is all I was after. Thanks for coming.

 

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/is-putin-s-russia-fascist/

An interesting read on Russian fascism from 7 years ago.

 

the "truth" is hard to extract in this situation.........as the propaganda machine has been in overdrive.

We don't even have an accurate body count ......on either side yet.

 

And you also bought the lie that there was not going to be an invasion, didn't you? While the forces were being assembled and the warnings were sounding, the Kremlin denied that an invasion was imminent and you believed that, didn't you?

 

this is true...shed loads of banjaxed kit and not a squeak of a reccy vehicle...apart from the odd Ukrainian farmer carting stuff off to stick it on ebay...and then there's all these blokes that just potter off into the sunset leaving everything behind.....what is going on with the Russian squaddies....??

 

45 min ago
Mayor of Ukrainian city Mariupol speaks of dire situation, no power or water, no way to collect the dead

From CNN staff

Vadym Boichenko, the mayor of the southern Ukrainian city of Mariupol, has painted a grim picture of life in the city.

"The situation is very complicated," Boichenko said in an interview on a YouTube channel Saturday. "The Russian army has already put up a blockade on the humanitarian corridor. We have a lot of social problems, which all the Russians have created."

Boichenko said the city, which has a population of nearly 400,000, has been without power for five days. "All our thermal substations rely on this power supply, so accordingly, we are without heat," he said.

Boichenko said there are no mobile networks, and "since the attack on Mariupol, we lost our reserve water supply, and so we are totally without water now. "

"[The Russian army] is working to besiege the city and set up a blockade," he said. "They want to cut us off from the humanitarian corridor, shutting down the delivery of essential goods, medical supplies, even baby food. Their goal is to choke the city and place it under an unbearable stress."

Boichenko said the "wounded and dead over these past five days number in the dozens. By the eighth day, there were hundreds. Now, we are already talking about thousands.

"These figures are only going to get worse," Boichenko said. "But this is the sixth straight day of airstrikes and we are not able to get out to recover the dead.

"They say they want to save Ukrainians from being killed by the Ukrainian [state] but they are the ones doing the killing," Boichenko said. "Listen, our brave doctors have been saving lives here now for 10 straight days. They live and sleep at our hospitals with their families."

Boichenko talked about the humanitarian corridor, which had been cancelled Saturday.

"We had 50 buses full of fuel, and we were just waiting for a ceasefire and for the roads to open so we can get people out of here," he said. "But now we are down to just 30 buses. We hid those buses in another location, away from the shelling, and lost another 10 there. So we are down to 20.

"So, when this humanitarian corridor finally opens to us tomorrow or whenever, we may not have any buses left to evacuate the people."

Boichenko said saving the city was out of the question. "The only task now is to open up the humanitarian corridor to Mariupol at any cost.

"All these talks are lies," he said. "All this is being done, I will repeat for the thousandth time, to destroy us as a nation."

Boichenko insisted morale in Mariupol was strong but they are "just hanging on."

"We are holding out hope that maybe tomorrow at the crack of dawn, perhaps a tiny dewdrop of love will splash down on the people of this city," he said.

"The city of Mariupol has ceased to exist," Boichenko told the YouTube interviewer, "at least the city that you once saw."​

Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-05-22/index.html

I don't know if I believe this, though. I wonder what the raving kook in Kharkiv thinks about it?

 

on a slightly different note though....this one will probably be curled up on her bed sucking madly on the corner of her snugger blankey at all the bombs, bullets, fuel and explosions knackering the planets carbon footprint...


Bless her.....I wonder why she doesn't jet off to Moscow and whack Putin around the ears with a few twigs and scream at him for buggering up the planet....she's a formidable wee critter when her danders up!!

 

And even that map is misleading - troops in the fields who are afraid to enter big cities cannot exercise control. Russians were kicked out of Kherson today by unarmed civilians today.

 

Which means we now know why Putin didn't want to attack while Trump was there - he figured another term and he might be able to grab more than just Ukraine. Looks like US voters might have saved the Baltics.

 

Hopefully as soon as possible.

 

it's not just Ukraine. Last month Putin demanded Finland and Sweden give answers as to their plans to
join NATO. In the past both nations had little intention, but now it's on the cards that they will join out of
fear they could be next to be invaded.
Lithuania is convinced it's next to get it in the neck from Russian liberators.But it's already a member of
NATO isn't it? So maybe NATO won't stop Putin at all.

Who is right here? Putin is - he said last month, when piling his army against the Ukraine border, to the
effect, 'EVERY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT IT LIKES WITHIN ITS OWN BORDERS.'
So if Ukraine wants to join NATO and the EU then it has every right to do so. Same with Finland. Same
with Sweden. Otherwise non-members are just easier for Putin to pick off, one by one.

And this is sad for Russia. Eventually it could wind up just a bigger version of North Korea. Russians
just don't understand how poor they are, or why they are poor.

 

Jeannette is the hard core anti-Western Marxist fringe. We get a lot of Russian trolls here since this
Ukraine business began, but Jeanette has been promoting the Putin line all along. She put on my
block because I challenged her/him on this.

 

Outstanding post, love it

 

And your point? He states a pro-Russian opinion, declares without evidence that news coming out of Ukraine is "debunked," and you agree with this because, well, you agree with it. Just like your ranting kook in Kharkiv, and just like you, he offers nothing factual and his claims fly in the face of facts and reason.

 

This is one thing that has always amazed me. How can a country of that size, with such richness, minerals, agriculture and science and so on, struggle to have a GDP of Italy and Spain. Russia should be the richest country in Europe. Not Germany or France, or Belgium or The Dutch, it should be mind boggling rich. A leader in tech, space, agriculture, innovative.
What is wrong with Russia, its a second world country. In many aspects third world. Always just those two steps behind the so called first world.

 

This **** is gonna be over before you can make a crow sandwich.

 

Speaking of crow sammiches, you haven't answered me about your falling for the lie that Russia wasn't going to invade. Like a good citizen of Oceania, you've moved right along to Big Brother's new reality of the day: That the invasion was inevitable and all the west's fault.

 

Putin, in a conversation with women, details the cause of the conflict.

 

......and "fox" News.........has no credibility.......... They sensationalize their biased viewpoint......and might just as well be a propaganda machine for extremists.

 

and what else do your tea leaves say about the outcome??

 

Perhaps because of the concentration of power /money and tyrannical leadership. The focus is not to bring out the best in its population or intelligent use of its resources.