Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

Your comments simply underline the propaganda nature of the divisions you allude to, resting on generalizations meant to perpetuate bias and prejudice for politicized motives. I will have more to say on that later. For now, it is sufficient for me to point out that the division between 1st world, 2nd and third arose first during the cold war, where US/NATO alliance were by definition 1st world, Warsaw Pact 2nd world, everyone else by definition 3rd world. Later on, the rough corresponding socio-economic factors mixed with generalized ideas about race and such, created the divisions you have in mind and to which you are trying to appeal to stoke prejudice against Russia. Doing so even though Russia's immediate adversary in this conflict, Ukraine, is even more "third world" by the criteria you are mentioning. Which then shows Ukraine simply a tool, nothing more.

 

Evidently if, if ... such a decision will be taken, everybody will be aware of the risks. War is war.
Let's wait and see which will be the real decision and what US and its allies are going to do.

 

And you cite that to prove what exactly? When Saddam was gassing Iranian troops with chemical weapons, the US was providing him with pin point coordinates where to unleash his chemical weapons to have the greatest effect (wherever Iraq's lines were breaking or wherever Iran had moved troops to locations were Iraqi lines were vulnerable). Iraq's war crimes found many complicit partners: the Soviets and the Warsaw Pact, the French, the Germans (esp. chemical weapons program), the "Arab League" (esp. America's cronies in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait ironically, along with Egypt and Jordan), but definitely the US as well. The Americans allowed the Russians/Warsaw Pact along with the French to supply the big ticket items, but they provided the kind of diplomatic and battlefield intelligence that only the Americans could provide, while making sure Iran's hands were tied militarily (almost a worldwide arms embargo against Iran), diplomatically (Iran's efforts to seek condemnation of Iraq repeatedly tabled by US maneuvers), and economically (encouraging and allowing the Saudis, Kuwaitis et al to bankroll Saddam's war in tune of $500 Billion in credit, loans and grants, while preventing Iran from cutting it off by leading a huge naval armada in the Persian Gulf).
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/2...rove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

 

If true, then indeed it is a stain that we need to recognize. As an American, that's not who I am today, and I can only hope that's not who my fellow Americans are today. We should not allow gassing of Ukranians.

Our leaders need to make our red lines clear. Imo, they should be:

1. Any attack or encroachment upon NATO territory or airspace will result in a declaration of war against Russia.

2. Using threats of nuclear weapons, even indirectly (by Putin only, not other Russians) will result in a declaration of war against Russia. We will not allow you to use these threats as a cudgel to get what you want.

3. Any gassing, thermobaric weapons against Ukranian civilians, or other WMD use will result in a declaration of war against Russia.

4. If you attempt to starve or freeze the Ukranians into submission over the coming months, and the world attempts to alleviate that suffering through airlift, we consider Ukranian airspace as sovereign, and any airlift aircraft that is shot down will result in a declaration of war against Russia.

 

Russkies in an elevator after Ukranian caretaker cut power to the lift motors.

 

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Your words make my point.

 

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The Ukrainian Armed Forces are preparing provocations with the participation of children - a video appeared on the network in which a Ukrainian soldier places a Molotov cocktail on a playground

Footage appeared on the network as a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine puts a container with suspicious contents on the playground - apparently, the contents of the bottle are very dangerous, since the soldier needed special protection to carry it.
The sapper put the container inside the house, and filmed the work done on the phone.

Apparently, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing another provocation against the Russian military, in order to “convict” them of “destruction of civilians” and “brutal murder of innocent children” later.

 

Get out of ukraine!
We are getting to a point where everyone is warming to an idea of bombing fascist Russia.

 

Russian bluster.

 

Popular propaganda themes, but untrue.

 

Attractive propaganda themes, but untrue. The Iranians had only themselves to blame for their isolation.

 

I take it you didn't watch the video?

 

No, I did not.
We know that Russia has ultra low yield nukes and are probably preparing to use these weapons. That’s why they are making these bogus videos.

 

Here are some more fakes and their exposure. Turn on subtitles

 

very revealing. You haven't watched the video, but you're sure it's fake. What, a free man in a democratic world with a clean brainwashed. Long live freedom! (liberation from the mind)

 

I couldn't care less which side is to "blamed" in your view of the world, but care to clarify which part of what I said was allegedly "untrue". Quote the specific allegedly "untrue" part in what I wrote and lets see who can provide the evidence to back up their assertion.

 

". . . the US was providing him with pin point coordinates where to unleash his chemical weapons to have the greatest effect (wherever Iraq's lines were breaking or wherever Iran had moved troops to locations were Iraqi lines were vulnerable) . . . "

To provide intelligence on enemy troop locations and movements is not to participate in the choice of countermeasures.

 

". . . The Americans allowed the Russians/Warsaw Pact along with the French to supply the big ticket items, but they provided the kind of diplomatic and battlefield intelligence that only the Americans could provide, while making sure Iran's hands were tied militarily (almost a worldwide arms embargo against Iran), diplomatically (Iran's efforts to seek condemnation of Iraq repeatedly tabled by US maneuvers), and economically (encouraging and allowing the Saudis, Kuwaitis et al to bankroll Saddam's war in tune of $500 Billion in credit, loans and grants, while preventing Iran from cutting it off by leading a huge naval armada in the Persian Gulf). . . ."
All perfectly normal and above board. The Iranians themselves were to blame for their isolation.

 

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The students want to go home.

 

https://www.facebook.com/100006442660293/posts/3158876091003782/?d=n

Ukrainians use agricultural equipment to handle Russian corpses.

 

It is when a) you know that is what Saddam would be doing, because that would be the main tool available to him as "countermeasures" in light of the particular circumstances at issue; b) when the US had prior experience with Saddam using these "countermeasures" (chemical weapons) after giving him such battlefield intelligence in the past but instead of that causing a pause, it was repeated even more regularly between 1986-1988 than in the past.

 

Nope. No US responsibility at all for the decision to use chemical weapons.

 

One of the board members of my employer reaches out to me about this war once in a while.
He said that he noticed that a lot of families that work for our company report that their family members in american military are being heavily deployed to Europe.
Fascists in Russia are literally playing with fire now.

 

Why should I watch anything that comes out of the fascist regime that lies all the time? Just weeks ago they denied planning the war in Ukraine while many documents that Ukrainians took from russian troops indicate planning going back quite a while.
Nothing that comes out of fascist Russia can be taken at a face value, in fact, it should be taken as an attempt to do a false flag operation.