Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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    Another example of the deployment of artillery units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the immediate vicinity of a dense residential area. In the video, the MLRS fires from the territory of the Kiev residential area Vynohradar.

    The cameraman is filming from a multi-storey candle building on 5B Pravdy Avenue (highlighted in yellow in the picture).
    Near the position (highlighted in red) are kindergarten No. 626 and gymnasium No. 257 (highlighted in green).

    The approximate direction of the missile launch is also characteristic: judging by the video, the MLRS are being fired towards Vyshgorod. Officially, the city is still under Ukrainian control.
     
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    Telegram cannot be blocked. Information is freely distributed there. But you refuse to watch it. You don't need the inconvenient truth - you have your own illusions.
     
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    "The only thing that can provoke Russia into a hostile and vigorous response is the expansion of NATO into the Baltic States" - US Senator Joe Biden, 1997
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    Would you say that this is also fake and Kremlin propaganda? :)
     
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    I certainly HOPE not........as Pootsky is a cruel , sadistic dictator........ and the sooner the world is FREE of this type.........the better off we all will be.
     
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    Umm the video says evoke reaction, not militarily. Why did you leave that out? Propaganda?
     
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    nice catch.......... furthermore.......it is outdated.
     
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    This might clarify the situation.

    https://theconversation.com/what-th...-and-what-it-means-for-the-ukraine-war-178136

    The key point is that yes the strait has been restricted, Turkey is allowing Russian naval vessels to return to their home ports. So any vessel in the Med that was formerly based in Black seas can return there or leave. As of this date no vessels assigned to Russia's Northern Fleet or Pacific Fleet are being allowed to enter the Black Sea. Moskva is part of the Black Seas Fleet so it is exempted form any such restrictions. Some 6 or so Russian naval vessels form other fleets got through to the Black sea before this decision was made. My understanding is that at the moment no more can. Although that is subject to change at the whim of the Turkish Government.

    Also I also don't get up regular up dates on Russian naval movements, only snapshots so my info on precise locations can be a few days old.
     
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    I was told that America is a free country and everyone has the right to speak out :) So I spoke out. I posted absolutely truthful words of Biden and even showed proofs.
    Apologies are accepted
     
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    Not really an apology but a clarification. You seem to have not noticed but the situation re: transiting Russian naval units remains as stated. As of now Black Sea vessels Fleet units may transit. Nothing else.
     
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    The military operation is land. Ukraine does not have a fleet. There is no need for the Russian fleet to be in the Black Sea. More importantly, Turkey has closed the passage for NATO ships.
     
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    You left out the part where he said "not militarily." Your quote as is gives the impression eastward expansion of NATO would initiate a violent conflict, which is not what Biden implied.
     
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    In case it escaped your notice but:

    1) Ukraine has a coast.
    2) Russia has deployed a marine landing task force off that coast to support operations in Southern Ukraine.
    3) Any attempt to stage landings on a defended coast without naval fire support is, if not doomed to failure doomed to suffer heavy casualties.
    4) To this end Russia has a large naval task force covering their marines for the purpose of providing fire support during any large scale landings and to defend the troop transports from attack. (Hint - that being the case there very much is a need for a Russian Fleet in the Back Sea.)
    5) Ukraine does not necessarily need a navy to threaten that force since any ships approaching the coast can in theory be engaged from land. And in fact apparently one small Russian ship has already been fired upon and if not sunk badly damaged.
    6) Although NATO already has a few ships in the Black Sea monitoring ongoing operations it has zero interest in staging significant naval forces in the area. This is because (unlike Russia) it is not at war with anyone and even if it was it already has the ability to strike targets in that area from the Mediterranean without actually entering the Black Sea.
     
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    'Sorry to bother you': CNN obtains audio of Russians calling Ukrainian hotline


    As President Vladimir Putin offered his support to the mothers, wives and girlfriends of Russian soldiers, CNN's Alex Marquardt reports that many of these women would prefer to know where their husbands and sons are and if they're alive. Some are reaching out to Ukraine to find out.​
     
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    Proud Band of Ukrainian Troops Holds Russian Assault at Bay — for Now
    Michael Schwirtz
    Mon, March 7, 2022, 6:32 AM

    MYKOLAIV, Ukraine — The remains of a Russian Tigr fighting vehicle sat smoldering on the side of the road, as Ukrainian troops lounged outside their trenches smoking cigarettes. Nearby, a group of local villagers was tinkering with a captured T-90 tank, trying to get it running again so that the Ukrainian army might put it to use.

    For three days, Russian forces had fought to take Mykolaiv, but by Sunday, Ukrainian troops had driven them back from the city limits and retaken the airport, halting the Russian advance along the Black Sea, at least temporarily. By Monday morning, Russian forces had resumed their attack.

    “Few expected such strength from our people because, when you haven’t slept for three days, and when you only have one dry ration because the rest burned up, when it’s negative temperature out and there is nothing to warm you, and when you are constantly in the fight, believe me, it is physically very difficult,” an exhausted Col. Sviatoslav Stetsenko, of the Ukrainian army’s 59th Brigade, said in an interview. “But our people endured this.”

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/proud-band-ukrainian-troops-holds-123259027.html

    Glory to the heroes! And may the evil tyrant in Russia be deposed soon, so that this miserable war of conquest and personal ambition on his part may be brought to a swift end.
     
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    Ukraine's Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, Explained

    Why would Washington D.C. fund, organize, and train a fascist army in the Ukraine during a civil war?

    I am shocked how calmly some Americans have recognize the fact that Nazis are a force in the Ukrainian civil war when the same kind of fascist movement has appeared even more visible in the American body politic. The Jan. 6, 2022 insurrection was modeled on the Maiden Coup of 2014. Neo-Nazi groups here in America have publicly brandished weapons making threats and carrying out acts of violence characteristic of fascist gangs against their opponents.

    1.) "But Zelensky is Jewish!" Even if we assume Zelensky is Jewish....there is evidence that Hitler had some Jewish heritage. In fact, there were some high level Nazi officers of Jewish heritage. So Zelensky's heritage is irrelevant and is only being used as propaganda to project a false persona.Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu is Jewish, but he is also the best friend forever to the fascist Donald Trump who has publicly praised Hitler! All members of Congress knew of Trumps' mafia/fascist background just as they know that fascists are influential in the Ukrainian government. So that argument doesn't work.

    2.) "The Nazis are only a small minority." They argue that there are only a few Nazis in the Ukraine and have been absorbed into the regular army. Oh! That's great; they moved their Nazi problem into the military so now they are like the United States military that also has a Nazi problem! Great (Rand Report: Countering Violent Extremism in the U.S. Military). We are not just speaking about the number of Nazi soldiers in the Azov Battalion which is important since it only takes a few to hijack an insurrection: if you multiply that number by two, that would merely be the number of boots they are wearing--it's the cultural space that the fascist ideology occupies that is the additional danger.

    3.) "To say Nazis are in the Ukraine plays into the hands of Russian propaganda." Or maybe Putin has a good point. According to the Nazi propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, the first rule of propaganda is not to get caught in a lie. Many on the American left at first denied there were any Nazis in the Ukraine at all, and then admitted it. If these para-military groups identify as Nazi, train with steroids, and fight in battle high on methamphetamine, "Neo-Nazis and drug addicts," would be an accurate description.

    This isn't the first time Washington D.C. has raised a fascist army to overthrow governments. The Iran/Contra Scandal of the Reagan Administration involved destabilizing a number of governments in Latin America. Bill Barr got them all pardoned.

    One of our anti-communist heroes in Latin America was the very famous interrogator,
    Blowtorch Bob
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    (He would interrogate the children first, and bragged he could make anyone talk.)
    "Major Roberto D'Aubuisson Arrieta (23 August 1944 - 20 February 1992) was the Salvadoran Army officer and political leader who founded the Nationalist Republican Alliance (ARENA), which he led from 1980 to 1985. He was known as "Chele", or "light-skinned face", and was accused by opponents of being an organizer-leader of the death squads who tortured and killed thousands of civilians before and during the Salvadoran Civil War. To political prisoners, he was known as "Blowtorch Bob", due to his frequent use of a blowtorch in interrogation sessions.[1][2][3]"

    And all this murder finds its way into commerce, markets, and cultural normalization.

    Romney’s Death Squad Ties: Bain Launched With Millions From Oligarchs Behind Salvadoran Atrocities
    "According to Reagan’s own ambassador, Robert White, their [ARENA] solution to the crisis 'was apocalyptic: the country must be ’destroyed totally, the economy must be wrecked, unemployment must be massive,' and a 'cleansing' of some '3 or 4 or 500,000 people' must be carried out," he says."
    Salvadorian death squad torture victims
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    It is common knowledge...

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    The Ukrainian Nazis declared that they had already mined and were ready to blow up a nuclear reactor in Kharkiv. This reactor is used to develop an atomic bomb. The plutonium for this bomb was supplied to Ukraine by the USA. The entire program of creating atomic weapons is fully supervised by the United States too.
    Well, what do you say now, gentlemen?
     
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