THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    You are writing lies. For example, in 2008, an international commission investigated the incident in Georgia and came to an unequivocal conclusion - Georgia provoked a war with Russia by attacking the Russians.
    In 2014, Crimea, in accordance with international laws "On the right of nations to self-determination," voted to secede from Ukraine. What does the region take this step after the coup d'état in Ukraine. Later, the independent Republic of Crimea held a referendum on Russia's request to accept the Republic of Crimea into its structure.
    Go learn the material part. And don't write nonsense.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    It's called a "figure of speech". Are you familiar with the concept of "literature"? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Who are you kidding with this BS?

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    Repeated Russian Lie #1
    Repeated Russian Lie #2.

    You're posting propaganda.
     
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    So, we know they can nuke us, but they can't beat us in a conventional war.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    What does being laughably wrong about everything have to do with literature, my desperately writhing amigo?
     
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    So, how come Canadians and Mexicans like us and none of Russia's neighbors like them?
     
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    Thank you for your time and the sources you provided.
    They should keep me busy for a while.
    I was unable to find anything from Tatyana Montyan in either English or German (the only languages I currently speak) but was able to do a little research on her.

    I was not surprised to see a video of Russian soldiers socializing with Ukrainian civilians as the Russians passed out humanitarian aid. I also realize that it is unlikely that Americans would see anything like that on CNN, MSNBC, etc.

    Thanks again...
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't object to opposing viewpoints being expressed and I'm afraid that once we start censoring the "other side", we're no different from the totalitarianism regimes we condemn.

    The truth doesn't fear honest examination and open debate.
     
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    Yet Russia does have that fear and exercises dictatorial control in the name of that fear. Meanwhile, a private forum having rules about what they decide to publish does not make them "no different" from a murderous dictatorial regime like Russia.
     
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    Canada and Australia have plenty of raw materials, especially oil and natural gas. Russia will never get a chance to sell a lot of its oil.
     
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    The US still has a lot of oil.
     
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    Russian propaganda.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not comparing PF with Russia.

    I'm only saying that the only people who must censor other viewpoints are those who are unable make a compelling argument of their own based on the facts.
     
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    Ahahaha.... You show a photo that shows how Ukrainian fascists are destroying their population. You first understand the reality, and then write. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Then you need to talk to whoever stole your login and did exactly that on your account in post #760.
    The only "censorship" you have pointed out on the US side is simply having rules for private property use. Which, no, doesn't mean that said owner is "unable to make a compelling argument." But I'm glad we can agree that Russia's dictatorial actions are an act of weakness. I'm sure one day you will be able to be more critical of actual dictatorships than you are of simple private property regulations. One day.
     
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    Ahahaha....Do you live in the wild forest or on the moon? You do not know the well-known events. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Don't write nonsense. The United States has never won a major war on its own. The most that the United States is capable of is to defeat a few people of the Panamanian army.
     
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    The world will surely see who mopped up whom or what in the next few weeks or months, so far the Russian military has been looking embarrassing. The more absurd the propaganda gets, the worse the situation ususally is. They seem to be pretty good at attacking hospitals and medical facilities. So far there have been 3,039 civilian casualties (ohchr.org). So much for "Russia doesn't attack civilians".
    On 18 March, 96 year-old Holocaust survivor Boris Romantschenko, vice-president of the The Buchenwald and Mittelbau-Dora Memorials Foundation, was killed in a Russian attack on his apartment block in Kharkiv. That's "de-Nazifying" Russian style. Disgusting.
    If the claim made in the op was correct, this war would be over, yet it isn't. Kremlin propaganda par excellence.
     
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    You don't need facts to make a compelling argument, just appeal to emotional responses.
     
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    I found a video For you - of Tatyana Montyan's speech at the UN via video link. There are German subtitles.

     
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    Handel kündigt »zweite Welle« von Preissteigerungen an https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/s...gen-an-a-4fb33510-9b37-4750-9f53-b1006e3c6ea3
    This is just a pathetic start. But the real crisis in the EU will be in 2023.
     
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    Yes, yes, Ukrainians are blowing up their own cities.
    :nod:
    Just like Russians are blowing up their ammunition storage and fuel depots in Belgorod.
    :lol:
     
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    Not for the world. We have to make sure there's enough supply in the world to make the boycott stick.
     
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    Russians may have trouble getting food.
     

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