Election Fraud Deniers Will Have a Hard Time Shrugging Off This ‘Never-Before-Seen Surveillance Vide

Trump isn't going anywhere. Like it or not you are stuck with him. Like it or not the hysteria surrounding Trump from the left is mostly unfounded bullshit. Like it or not he's likely to win in 2024 because the quality of life of your average American middle class and down has deteriorated greatly and will only get worse by then. And that's not so much a knock on the puppet in charge, it's a knock on the DNC itself. This is their hill they've created and they are about to get knocked off that hill and will hopefully have to adjust and refocus their values into something a bit more realistic.

Trump will get his last 4 years and then be gone in the wind, being replaced by hopefully more moderate and less abrasive choices like DeSantis. Until then it's MAGA baby.

 

if democrats are marking fake ballots for biden, none of them thought to mark fake ballots for senators or congressmen?

on the other hand, many people might noy care who their representatives are, but can see through trump's tsunami of bull ****.

 

Trump is less liked than republicans in general. How hard a concept is that? Grow up!

Republicans in other federal races lost to democrats by 5 million votes. Trump lost by 7 million votes. Youngkin wins a state that Trump lost by 10 points and republicans have not won since 2004.

Again like talking to a wall Trump's political failures occurred BEFORE Jan 6th. He is less viable now.

 

Yep because dems are so moral. And then the dems turned off their election voodoo to help Youngkin take the governor's office in Virginia. Just because they are good people.

The turnout in 2020 was massive because Trump was the most polarizing candidate ever.

 

exactly. i do not claim "morality" from the democrats, but trump was the most polarizing candidate ever.

 

I love how people ignore Jan 6th as if that has no effect on Trump's viability as a candidate.

60% of Americans have a negative view of what happened and 60% of Americans blame Trump for what happened.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2022/01/05/new-polls-on-january-6/?sh=1ecb3c411816

To look at the election results the FACT that Trump lost 2 to 1 with independents and look at the damage caused by Jan 6th you have to have a serious gap in your mental functioning to want him to run again in 2024. He simply cannot win!

Regardless if you like him or not he also has major flaws like his narcissism when endorsing candidates for office primarily because they kissed his ass not because they might have the best chance of winning. His encouragement and endorsement of Herschel Walker is retarded!

 

is dr oz considered a "conservative?" trump's explanation for his endorsement of oz was a little weak.

 

Well it's obvious, why one would not want any more Trumps. But I am curious as to why you relegate Biden to that same category, not just as someone, with whose views, you disagree-- which would be an impossible expectation to meet, w/ the broad range of political perspectives among citizens, to have a candidate to whom at least some, would not feel utterly opposed-- but as the type that should be excluded, in the future.

In our political leadership, there are a number of essential, and a number of crucially- important qualities. One of which, is being knowledgeable, generally (as well as being willing & able to learn anything more that becomes required), and another is being able to leverage that understanding, as it applies to our government system, to be effective, getting things done.

I had, initially, low expectations, from first candidate, then President, Biden. Yet, he has not only assuaged my reservations, but made me supporter, impressed me, turned me into a fan. That does not mean, of course, that I always agree with him, or think that he has not made mistakes, or will not make others, in the future. But, realistically, that applies to every potential leader.

A President's powers are limited, when it comes to controlling, and changing, reality. Just because one can point to problems, does not validate the implication that, if someone else were in the job, we would be better off. What I mean is, you can no doubt find a candidate whose view is closer to your own, on any given issue. But that candidate would have had to deal with all issues, that Biden has had to face. And I believe, for the vast majority of potential candidates, our overall circumstances would be worse than they currently are, had someone else been running the ship, these last 14 months.

 

Keep in mind these are the same people who call Hunter's laptop "Russian disinformation".

 

Well sir, if that's the case then he won't win the republican nominee. But we both know he will. So what's your point?

Jan 6th? The only people hysterical over January 6th are those who still can't come to terms with the reality of the current situation as being exactly caused by the current administration in charge and still want to somehow blame Trump for all the world woes.

Oh and AOC. As I'm sure she's still terrorized in a closet somewhere.

If someone else is more liked then Trump then that someone else will win the nominee position. Bottom line.

 

I honestly am just stunned that anybody is still floating this lie...without an ounce of evidence. I don't understand why it's not in the "conspiracy theory" subforum at this point. <smdh>

 

Of the two, Trump is clearly the more problematic and the more dangerous to the country. But my comment wasn't meant to be taken as my wanting to exclude people. I'm more interested in the voters making better choices, especially during the primaries. I am not pleased at all with the increasingly fanatical crop of candidates coming out of both sides. I want more moderates. To his credit, that is essentially what Biden has always been, up until the point that he needed to start getting in bed with the progressives once he became president.

Given the crop of candidates we had to choose from on the left side of things in 2020, Biden isn't the worst. I would have preferred Gabbard(and voted for her by write-in in the general election), and if not her, then Yang. But Biden wasn't the worst.

The problems with Biden, for me, are this.

His mental state. He's not the senile old man that the right wants him to be, but he's not exactly working with a full deck either. I think he's too old. One result of that is that he's far too aloof and it's obvious he's being handled. All presidents tend to be in one way or another, but he's being handled in a way that makes you think those handling him don't want him exposed for long where he might have to think spontaneously or make decisions on the fly. That's worrisome.

I do not like that he bends to the progressive wing of his party. Yes, to a certain extent, that's understandable. A president has no chance of accomplishing anything if he can't work with his party. But the progressive wing is straying increasingly into fanatical territory in the same way that the Trump Republicans are. I would like a moderate president that isn't afraid to be a moderate. Biden is not that guy. He's not a strong leader. On the flip side, he's clearly of far better character than Donald Trump or any of his political clones, but he's not squeaky clean. There are some serious issues being raised regarding his involvement with his son's business dealings. Those need to be investigated in the same way that Donald Trump's corruption does.

I do not like that he vowed to nominate a black SCOTUS judge. I don't have a problem with the KBJ, and wouldn't have had a problem with him nominating a minority of any kind, but he shouldn't have come out and promised it. That is not the kind of pandering that is helpful right now.

 

News of the Day 4/13/3031

The 17th Clone of Donald Trump today released these pictures of somebody doing something which he is claiming are irrefutable proof that he won the 2020 Presidential Election for President of the USA, a former nation on the former planet of Earth which was destroyed in the Earth/Moon collision of 2595. The pictures of a blank screen shown here are being offered as proof of the Reign of Mike Lindell the 23rd as the 45th Sovereign of the Universe and Chief Programmer of Channel443x4 (All Gunsmoke All the Time Channel)

 

Trump was a far superior president to Biden.

 

So Jan 6th is a positive thing for Trump? No political fallout there?

 

I think it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be and perhaps by 2024, long since forgotten. If he is able to win the primary, then I'd say that's pretty much a done deal.

If Jan 6th is a big deal, then he shouldn't win the primaries. We will see.

 

Fair enough but the democrats will make the biggest thing of it if Trump runs.

I do not think Trump will run because the polls will not be favorable enough.

 

The democrats haven't stopped their Trump hysteria since 2015...it's been ****ing exhausting. But if we both agree that right now Trump is the face of conservatives rightly or wrongly...and more people are switching sides or have lost faith in the DNC/Biden...then they are accepting the MAGA hat or they are not voting.

 

If Trump is alive and legally able to do so he WILL run (he's never yet won any real election). He''ll probably do so even if it's illegal and many of his base will write him in if he's dead.

Trump is not concerned about whether he can "win" but only if he has a basis for another coup. This next one will be far better planned, probably backed by the Billionaire's Cabal and having actual mercenaries instead of the Q-Anon Shaman. I hope nobody is hurt.

 

The proverbial yellow dog would be a far superior President to Trump, and this is if the dog is dead.

 

I have been through Hell and back throughout my lifetime and I have never, ever wished death upon anyone, not even my abusers. However, I have to make an exception in this case. The **best** thing Trump can do for our country is to die. He's not only worthless, he's counterproductive. He is probably negotiating for a Dorian Gray deal as I type this. I hope he doesn't score it.

 

Funny I don't recall runaway inflation, an empowered Taliban, as large of a mess at the Southern border (which the left leaning bias media is strangely quiet about). Incoming food shortages, racial division, rise in crime, lack of trust between parents and the schools, more deaths to COVID even with a vaccine or getting as close to WW3 as we are right now when he was in charge?

As a matter of fact, if I manage to ignore most of the bullshit hysteria brought up scripture by bias left leaning media and ignore stupid riots like BLM and Antifa...things were actually just fine.

Don't fret though. BLM and Antifa will get more vocal as we get closer to 2024...just seems to be this crazy pattern with those two organizations...can't put my finger on it.

 

The deniers that there was election fraud in 2020 are indeed easily fooled

 

Indeed they are.

 

You should take a break and sit down... if you let Trump run your life and he is in your head 24/7... that really is not healthy...
If I may say.... you are the problem ...... cause I have not or will ever have a hate for anyone like you do.. When you start wishing death on someone you need to look inward at the problem.