Has the USA changed its original priorities?

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  1. Pixie

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    Why do you think the pursuit of personal happiness is unachievable?
    The assumption is that every person allows with no impediment every other person to find his or her own happiness and NOT be prevented from doing so.
    And please don't insult me by going on about some nutters pursuit of being happy killing people or stealing or doing something that impedes someone else's idea of happiness.
    To fulfill the promise all people must stop telling everyone else how to live.
    And that includes governments.
    For instance there have been groups of people in the UK concerned about wasting energy and climate change. They have been gluing themselves to roads, bridges etc causing huge traffic jams and inconvenience.
    Whose right to pursuit of happiness would prevail in the USA?
     
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    You would no doubt have to explain why a gas car is happiness.
    Happiness surely isn't just a preference. It has to actually have an effect on your well-being...what we call mental health.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know many who were forced to take the poison shots, including friends in the US military. Have you been sleeping?
     
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    Then perhaps you can define it instead of telling us you can.
     
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    I understand and kind of agree with the sentiment. But the fact remains that the USA is by far the most successful, most freedom and liberty giving, most beneficent, and most tolerant country in the history of the world.
     
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    I did mention the DOI in my OP.
     
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    That is one example.
    There is also abortion and gender transitions, taking down what you consider to be insulting public representations (after years of trying the "legal" route.
    Why are these not defined by the pursuit of happiness?
     
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    Shoot! I though trannys were parts of an automobile. It's getting hard to keep up! :smile:
     
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    How does that not violate the rights of others thing work exactly???
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's easy Pixie!

    Get your dictionary out, and then one by one, look up the meanings of 'pursuit', and then 'happiness'. If you're really challenged, look up the meaning of 'of' too. Good luck.
     
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    What do you know of other western democracies?
    From the above I would say very little.
    You have laws no French man would spend five minutes putting up with.
    The people would be out in the streets en masse in the time it takes to get to the door. You try telling a French woman she can't have an abortion. You wouldn't last long.
    BTW I don't know what you mean by successful.
     
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    I think it does, but the people must work for it every day. :)
     
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    Nice of someone to finally point that out.
    Seat belts, like helmets and other stuff, do in fact infringe on liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
     
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    Look up the words "ducking and diving". I already know what they mean.
     
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    You are unhappy to wear a seat belt? Or you just don't like it?
    The two things are not the same.
     
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    It appears those are the only words you know...
     
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    In NYC you can be fined up to $25,000 IIRC.
     
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    Americans like you, who hate their country, make me very sad. :(
    Imagine the Russkies attack your Motherland like Ukraine. Will you fight back?
     
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    But if you are referring to the pursuit of happiness as it is tied to our founding you pretty much need to know how Jefferson and the founders defined it, not Webster (or Funk or Wagnalls)..
     
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    Really? They were tied down to a chair while someone injected them?
     
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    That's true, but I wonder how much the meanings of those words and that term have changed since 1787? Have you any thoughts on how they might have changed?
     
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    You are a naive soul MM
     
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    Neither. I'm just stating that forcing someone to wear a seat belt or a helmet takes away liberty and takes away what could be a pursuit of happiness. My personal preferences have nothing to do with it.
     
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    And you are emotional using a word like "forced" to describe vaccine requirements in the military which have been around since before this country was formed.
     
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    Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

    The Constitution says

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
     
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