BREAKING: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v. Wade, According to Draft Majority Opinion

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  1. mswan

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    Or, they could, like, nurture children instead of killing them. Isn't too much to ask I think.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Nobody's grasping at anything but conservatives. We were going to beat you handily in November just for being Dicks, now you're gonna be red-headed stepchildren.

    I can't see how ANY woman, short of the space lasers lady, would EVER vote Republican under any circumstances
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you guys? If it's so "fulfilling" to "nurture" a child why don't you do it? I've not yet heard of even one pro "life" group that will pay a woman's pregnancy expenses or even arrange one of these so-easy adoptions you're always going on about.

    Put your money where your mouth is.
     
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    Not in red states.
    Moral of the story keep your state blue at all costs now.
     
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    What's funny is, a good percentage of conservatives may be a part of their fathers first set of kids, but not their mothers.
    Thanx to abortions, the mother was able to ditch the first loser that got her pregnant and meet their now succesful husband. So if not for abortion many of us would not be here.
     
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    I can imagine doubtful doctors, licenced by law or charlatans, rubbing their hands in glee, scrubbing down their kitchen tables and stocking up on brown envelopes large enough for the bundles of cash they look forward to being handed.
    Not only that, but never being caught because women would not expose them due to themselves being arrested

    And there would be no chance of seeking help if these butchers cause dangerous complications and possibly death. Hospitals and doctors would report the illegal abortion.
    How merciful and life giving is a ban on abortions.
    Hallelujah
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. If somehow, it's still not blindingly obvious which Party supports your rights as a free citizen and which wants America to be the Fourth Reich I don't see as how anything I can say will convince you. Vote Democrat And Stay Free. Vote Republican and Die (as a free person)
     
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    There should be no help for these murderous jezebels who seduce innocent men to risk their EVERLASTING SOULS. Truly women are naturally vessels of sin and deserve no wages but DEATH for their nefarious activities. [/satire]
     
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    In a democracy, the majority always ends up taking back its rights.

    And this highly political decision will create a groundswell that will mobilize the liberal electorate and moderate independents.

    Alito and his four friends have just proved that moderates were right to fear the conservative agenda.

    It will have an effect on the midterms, you can be sure of it.
     
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    I don't expect any Conservative to be self-critical enough to realize that he/she is in trouble with the electorate.

    Every MAGA on this forum was convinced that Trump would be re-elected....

    And the Supreme Court is about to make a decision that is supported by only 28% of Americans and that will take the country back 50 years.

    So there will be a significant political cost to the GOP.

    And I'm delighted about that.
     
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    So what do you think Dems/Libs/Progressives will do IF they gain majority support in Congress? You do know that if they pack the court then the next time Reps are in charge they will just pack it further right? Make a law? It will just be shot down by the courts. You should also consider that the Federal Government is having a hard time enforcing the laws NOW. EX: Sanctuary cities/states for illegals and pro-2nd amendment cities/States. Imagine also trying to enforce allowing abortion also. So, what are they going to do that will "fix this permanently"? Anything less than "fixing this permanently" will just lead to more strife. You do know this right?
     
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    You don't understand the difference between rights, powers and privileges. Only human beings can have rights. Other entities such as government have powers granted to them by human beings who have rights. Government servants are granted powers and privileges via the contract called the Constitution (a piece of paper), in order for them to be able to legally exercise those powers granted and limited by the Constitution. Rights cannot be given by a piece of paper, they can only be protected and even then that is not necessarily true. You really ought to take a civics course, you don't understand any of this. It's not my job to educate you but it's not possible to have a discussion with someone who doesn't understand those basic concepts (rights, powers and privileges).
     
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    If you stand back, this is a monstrous takeover of human rights by a few religious bigots who were in the right 0lace at the right time under a wrong president.
    Forcing religion through a national law should be illegal. By this very act, you are opening up yourselves to any religious interest having the capacity to establish their religious beliefs on the entire nation. Do not then ask why in principle a future Muslim majority in the supreme court legislated that the punishment for homosexuality is death by hanging from a crane.
    The principle of letting any moral position be decided by a select few at any level of legislation is the anthesis of secularity. You would then be handing over power to the diktat of a religion. And never allowing that should be the most important constitutional precept of all.
     
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    Thats actually not true. Some states are passing laws hinging on RvW that prevent any resident of the state from seeking an abortion OUTSIDE THE STATE.

    So, even if you live in Alabama ( I think is one of the states ) if you seek an abortion outside the state, they will still criminally prosecute you regardless.
     
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    Who said anything about me? Im to old and have to many medical issues to be of much use.

    But its coming. The extreme right taking over the government will all but guarantee it.
     
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    And, the pendulum swings.
     
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    WOW! The more I read of the Leftwing theoretical, the more concerned I become!!
     
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    The information is not "incorrect", just misapplied. That refers only to within the state of Texas. There is no way that they could enforce it for an abortion that does not happen in Texas. They have no jurisdiction for such.
     
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    As I said. You have your opinion as to what is best. I and most others have ours. Truthfully, I am not that interested in this topic. Let's agree to move on.
     
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    Bill Maher who I generally agree with and has been generally right, was saying Friday that the midterms would be a "bloodbath" for the Democrats, and I had to agree.

    But this has changed everything. Once again conservatives seem unable to understand that the worst thing you can do politically is to SCARE people.
    They are just so totally blueballedly anxious to start repressing people that it just never seems to dawn on them that maybe they should actually FIX some of the country's problems BEFORE they start ramming their hidebound morality down everyone's throats. Just because we don't like paying $5 a gallon does NOT mean that we suddenly want to stop having sex with our wives or have 12 kids and see all the porn taken off our computers

    I just hope that we Dems realize what a life preserver we've just been thrown and have the good sense to grab the sonofabitch
     
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    Absolute nonsense. Whomever is telling you that is either lying/fear mongering or terribly misinformed. You cannot be charged in one state for a supposed crime that occurred in another state. They do not have jurisdiction for what happens in other states.

    If you have a link I will be happy to look it over, but whomever is pushing that nonsense is ignoring the above reality.
     
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    Sadly, reality. I was wrong on the state though. Its Missouri. Might as well rename the state Misery.


    https://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills221/amendpdf/4488H03.01H.pdf


    https://www.senate.mo.gov/22info/pdf-bill/intro/SB1202.pdf
     
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    I looked through your first link and it is many pages long. While I do not see where in that text it supports your claim, I will assume that something that in the legalese may appear to do so exists. It would not hold constitutional muster if that were the case. One state does not have jurisdiction against the actions of what occurs in other states. This is a foundational principle in our system of jurisprudence.

    You should be happy about this.
     
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    Suddenly the non-biologist Left can easily identify women? Very Interesting!

    MODERATE JOE: ‘Roe Says What All Basic Mainstream Religions Have Historically Concluded.’

    "Old Joe Biden, devout and knowledgeable Catholic that he is, in Joe’s addled mind, Roe v. Wade is a profoundly religious document, encapsulating the wisdom of all the world’s great religious traditions. Oh, you didn’t know that? Neither did anyone else."

    "Biden says: “The idea that we’re gonna make a judgment that is going to say that no one can make the judgment to choose to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court I think goes way overboard.”

    "Abort what, Joe? Abortion advocates have been insisting for fifty years now that an unborn child is just a clump of cells, not a human life at all, and now at this late date, with Roe apparently under threat (although the justices haven’t heard from Antifa yet), Dementia Joe tells us that what is aborted is a “child.” Well, yeah. That’s the very reason why what went “way overboard” was Roe itself, not a decision to overturn this exercise in baseless judicial fiat and restore the right of each state to make its own laws about abortion."

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    Courts will still review state abortion laws, they will simply use a more appropriate standard to measure whether the state is pursuing a legitimate interest in it's regulation.
     
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    But you are interested in this topic otherwise you would not be posting here. The only reason why this is even a topic is exactly because SCOTUS granted itself the power to interpret the Constitution from thin air. A woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body has been protected by the Bill of Rights (9th Amendment) from the day of ratification. SCOTUS wants to "interpret" the Constitution such that such a right is no longer protected. This is the same activist rogue entity that decided that corporations (a paper created fiction) have the same rights as human beings protected by the Bill of Rights and money is speech. This is the kind of absurd lunacy you get when you agree that SCOTUS can "interpret" the Constitution as the wind blows. Oh but you're not interested. Sorry.
     
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