Holocaust Denial is Hate?

You're expecting logic from irrational psychopaths like Hitler.

The Nazis murdered millions of Jews but kept the ones that were of use to them, or were of great military necessity.

I don't know why you find that so difficult to understand

I've shown you several times now what Hitler believed about the Jews in his writings in Mein Kampf. But of course you deny that too.

I guess that's why they call it Holocaust denial, because denial is their obsession

 

Libel is not a crime it is a civil offense which is difficult to prove and in many cases more about money than anything else.

 

But they still have a right to express their denial

 

Libel ruins lives. It is a generally the result of a vicious lie and denying the Holocaust is about the most vicious lie I can conceive of

 

Not if it slanders an entire group of people.

Holocaust deniers routinely, including in this forum, slander the Jewish people. Accusing us of collectively trying to commit genocide against Germany, of being a collective Communist threat, of being collectively liars and parasites. Freedom of Speech is not a suicide pact and we should not allow Nazis (or Communists for that matter), abuse this freedom so as to install a bigoted authoritarian regime. That is the ultimate goal of Holocaust deniers, to bring back Nazism and to persecute the Jews once again.

 

But its ok to slander the german people huh?
Thats dont on this forum as a matter of course.
There never has been any forensic evidence that so much as one jew was gassed.

 

They are not expressing their denial. They don't believe what they are saying either. They are lying to slander the Jews and for no other reason.

 

but it wasnt just the nazis,

Seems to me there were to the tune of 160 countries that they were kicked out of throughout history wasnt there?

I really dont know why wanasee would be labeled extermination since the only thing it talks about is 'deportation', no different than all the other countries that booted them to the curb.

 

Oh so now you're defending and justifying anti-Semitism because Europe was full of evil hateful antisemites???? How disgusting.

The Inquisition was so very popular throughout the Catholic world does that mean it was okay????

Everybody used to think that the Earth was flat and the sun revolves around the world does that mean it was right???

Do us a favor and if you hate Jews just say so and don't beat around the bush.

 

Deportation was simply a pathetic euphemism for extermination.

Even you know that. Stop playing pathetic games, stop defending anti-semitism

 

Im asking for an explanation, you dont seem to have one.
I want to know WHY so many countries kicked the jews to the curb?
No country deports people without a reason.
People dont hate without a reason either.
Cant you simply answer such a simple question?
Seems you are holding out on us.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews

thats a hell of a long list!

 

It's very simple: they hated the Jews because they refuse to accept Jesus as the Messiah, and because people were converting to Judaism, and because non Jews were marrying Jews.

This is the specific reason given in the Spanish expulsion order.

Mind you many of the European territories that exiled Jews, literally allowed them right back in a couple years later.

Stop trying to understand and justify hatred of Jewish people. And do us a favor if you hate Jews just say so!!!

 

If you were to follow my posts you would notice I hate injustice and I point it out.

They wiped out over 95% of all housing in dresden in their TERROR bombing, they openly admitted it was TERROR bombing, what could possibly justify that?

They used incendiaries banned by geneva and not only leveled dresden but burned it to the ground.

So then how can you say they are antisemite?
The germans took them in as refugees too once upon a time.

There appears to be a pattern here.

Thats only one country, so then you feel that countries should be forced to accept judaism instead?

The germans beef was that in addition to starving the germans, dividing the country stealing german territory, cutting east german off from west germany, the jews brought in and forced on the german people movies showing pornography, homosexuality, adultery, which at that time was culturally abhorent, just like you cant show x rated movies on a childrens program here in the US either.

So I want to know why so many countries booted them to the curb, are you claiming that all countries are christain and that all the cristians hate jews?

 

THAT is a really good quetion, maybe ron or @yardmeat would be happy to answer it for us.

It almost sounds like maybe something they are worried will be uncovered? I wonder what that might be?

 

It is disgusting and reprehensible that you are allowed to post such bigoted, dishonest trash here.

Do us a favor and get some help, as your pathological level of hatred is definitely bad for the brain.

 

I've condemned Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao and have never engaged in denialism regarding their crimes. I've also never advocated anyone being "locked up" for Holocaust denialism . . . I've said the exact opposite. It's a straw man. I've addressed @Grau 's claims regarding the Holocaust in the past already.

 

Antisemites hate Jews because they are evil hateful illogical, irrational bigots.

What more of a reason do you need???

Why do you need logic from illogical people?

 

There's no point in trying to reason with people incapable of understanding the difference between opinions on individuals like Stalin, Pol Pot, or Mao, and labeling a whole nation.

 

Also, you are contradicting yourself. When Jews, over the course of thousands of years, face victimization, you blame the victims. If Nazism and Holocaust denial is being hated and kicked out of all of these countries, you don't draw the same exact conclusion.

 

Don't forget that many people for whatever crazy reason insist on blaming women for being raped. Either they were dressed the wrong way or behave with the wrong way. They even suggest that if the victim becomes pregnant it means no rape could have taken place.

I don't know why people in this world insist on blaming the victim

 

Now if you had ANY forensic evidence what so ever that 6 million jews were gassed by the germans I will stop asking the question.

Until that question is answered Im sorry it remains to be seen, there is no proof what so ever the jews are victims, only hearsay and lots of publicity.

Im still waiting for your forensic evidence that so much as one jew was in fact gassed?

 

Your strawman is stupid. Nobody has ever stated that 6 million Jews were gas to death.

Are you now also saying that the Jews were not victims of harassment and violence by the Nazis?

The Nazis did not strip them of their citizenship, force them into ghettos, force them into concentration camps with deplorable conditions, force them into slave labor camps???

Please tell me your level of denial is not this deep.

Even @Grau admits that millions of Jews were forced into ghettos and concentration camps and slave labor camps, where they were terribly mistreated.

 

I think you are confused ron, you mean victor dont you?
They leveled germany after all

 

Look what is being done to the germans today, they dont even have free speech under jewish rule, you dont think thats a pot/kettle affair?

 

I've provided chemical evidence in the past. The fact is that millions of Jews died. No one is claiming they all died from gassing, but yes, gassing was a thing. I've corrected this straw man dozens of times, if not more.

We know about the gassings because of eyewitness testimony, other contemporary evidence, chemical evidence, etc. We know, for a fact, that these weren't just delousing chambers. They were designed so that they couldn't be opened from inside. There was wire casing over the peephole on the inside. Delousing chambers would have had much, much lower concentrations of the poison.

The Jews were the victims of the Nazi Holocaust. That's where all of the available evidence points to. Your claim that the Nazis were somehow the victims of the Jews is entirely without evidence or rationality.