Holocaust Denial is Hate?

@Grau

For clarification of what I mentioned above, it was illegal for Jews and Germans to marry. It was illegal for Jews and Germans to have sex outside of marriage as well. Jewish men could not even hire German women for household employment if the woman was younger than 45. Jews weren't legally allowed to fly the Nazi flag. The "Jews" that you are talking about were likely Mishlinge: which weren't actually considered Jews by the Nazis.

 

Being nice to 5 Jews doesn't mean that you aren't anti-Semitic. No, it wasn't just the Communist/Marxist Jews that Hitler hated, and they weren't the only victims of his psychopathic fascists.

 

Can we please tone down the hostility?

Please try to be objective and forget all the Hollywood propaganda(1) that has shaped your opinions.

Of course they must have been treated as equals if many of them rose to high ranks in both the National Socialist Party(2) and / or Germany's WW 2 Military(3).



(1) “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED


(2)“List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED



(3) “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

“If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED

[Clarification: Yes, I believe that the holocaust happened but, regrettably, it has been grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited for political and financial reasons.]

 

I don't think that asking about the Nuremberg Race Laws is "hostility." Read post #301.

To repeat: For clarification of what I mentioned above, it was illegal for Jews and Germans to marry. It was illegal for Jews and Germans to have sex outside of marriage as well. Jewish men could not even hire German women for household employment if the woman was younger than 45. Jews weren't legally allowed to fly the Nazi flag. The "Jews" that you are talking about were likely Mishlinge: which weren't actually considered Jews by the Nazis.

 

Seems very strange that an antisemite would like semites?
He even had this young jewish girl that he loved dearly.
She came to visit him often.
I dont get what these holocaust evengelists are trying to sell here, seems very contradictory to me. Look at ron clearly he believes free speech should be banned.

 

Being nice to 4 or 5 Jews doesn't mean you aren't anti-Semitic. I repeat: For clarification of what I mentioned above, it was illegal for Jews and Germans to marry. It was illegal for Jews and Germans to have sex outside of marriage as well. Jewish men could not even hire German women for household employment if the woman was younger than 45. Jews weren't legally allowed to fly the Nazi flag. The "Jews" that you are talking about were likely Mishlinge: which weren't actually considered Jews by the Nazis.

 

It proves he was not an antisemite as claimed.
So there had to be something else.
what was it?

That sounds mysteriously political to me?

 

No, it doesn't. Being nice to 4-5 Jews while establishing laws that attack their entire race and remove citizenship from them, outlaw their intermarriage, etc. is not "proof he was not anti-Semitic."

 

That was only a small sample

 

Way smaller than the Jewish population removed citizenship from, persecuted, and murdered.

 

Grau thinks having a Jewish lawyer or accountant or doctors means one could not possibly be anti-Semitic.

Hitler's writings in Mein Kampf make it ****ing clear as day to all but the hopelessly obtuse, that he was increadibly hateful towards the collective Jewish people.

Did he tolerate some Jews, like his family doctor, his WW1 corporal? Sure. But most Jews he hated to hell and tried to have them exterminated. He was forced by military neccessity and pressure from the military to give some Jews certificates of Jewish blood, but he didnt want to.

To suggest that Hitler was not an anti-Semite, is absurd idiocy.

 

Either you are a complete liar or you never read his writings in Mein Kampf.

Here's some tasty quotes:

"From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew "The Great Master of Lies". Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail."

" People who can sneak their way, like parasites, into the human body politic and make others work for them under various pretences can form a State without possessing any definite delimited territory. This is chiefly applicable to that parasitic nation which, particularly at the present time preys upon the honest portion of mankind; I mean the Jews."

"The Jew has never been a nomad, but always a parasite, battening on the substance of others. If he occasionally abandoned regions where he had hitherto lived he did not do it voluntarily. He did it because from time to time he was driven out by people who were tired of having their hospitality abused by such guests. Jewish self-expansion is a parasitic phenomenon--since the Jew is always looking for new pastures for his race."

"He is and remains a parasite, a sponger who, like a pernicious bacillus, spreads over wider and wider areas according as some favourable area attracts him. The effect produced by his presence is also like that of the vampire; for wherever he establishes himself the people who grant him hospitality are bound to be bled to death sooner or later. Thus the Jew has at all times lived in States that have belonged to other races and within the organization of those States he had formed a State of his own, which is, however, hidden behind the mask of a 'religious community', as long as external circumstances do not make it advisable for this community to declare its true nature. As soon as the Jew feels himself sufficiently established in his position to be able to hold it without a disguise, he lifts the mask and suddenly appears in the character which so many did not formerly believe or wish to see: namely that of the Jew.

The life which the Jew lives as a parasite thriving on the substance of other nations and States has resulted in developing that specific character which Schopenhauer once described when he spoke of the Jew as 'The Great Master of Lies'. The kind of existence which he leads forces the Jew to the systematic use of falsehood, just as naturally as the inhabitants of northern climates are forced to wear warm clothes."

"If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit, would prevent this struggle from developing. Therefore it would be a complete mistake to interpret the mutual help which the Jews render one another when they have to fight--or, to put it more accurately, to exploit--their fellow being, as the expression of a certain idealistic spirit of sacrifice."

 

you are either a liar or have never read Mein Kampf.

see above, as to what Hitler believed about the collective Jewish people.

if HItler only hated Marxist/Commy Jews, why did he persecute the Jews of Germany? Most of them voted against the KPD "Kommunist Partie Deutschland" in 1933. Most German Jews also denounced the American Jewish boycott of German goods.

But you deny all of this. And we know why, its clear as Russian vodka.

 

yeh because the evidence does not support that any jews were gassed.

Here is a nice jewish lad that toured auschwitz and interviewed piper, the curator that you posted in defense of the holocaust, and this nice jewish lad busted him for telling several lies!

David Cole in Auschwitz—David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, Director, Auschwitz State Museum

HERE

 

"4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race."

@Grau @Kokomojojo

 

I provided a court case that disproves you accusation.

 

they will deny this as a "Zionist-Bolshevik mistranslation".

Denial is their game and their obsession.

 

Adolf Eichmann gave an interview years before he was captured by the Israelis, in it he detailed his knowledge of the Holocaust, how it was done, how many likely murdered, and his lack of remorse.

It was published in Life Magazine. Here are the details:

what say you @Jazz?

what say you @Kokomojojo?

what say you @Grau?

 

Himmler's Posen speech also confirms.

 

our resident Deniers will of course deny that too.

 

Hitler said to the Reichstag that if there was another world war, the Jews of Europe would be exterminated.

Goering said that if the anti-Nazi boycott was not lifted, the Jews of Europe would be exterminated.

 

HC denial could be hatred of Jews, or could it be an attempt to whitewash Nazi ideology, or it could even be plain stupidity.
It's one thing for sure: it's irrelevant today.

 

thats what happens when the leadership of a country is pissed off enough to kick a group of people to the curb.

Aside from failing to provide so much as one sliver of forensic evidence that even one jew was gassed,

and you have no excuse since the US and the UK sent forensic experts to germany to investigate, so you have NO EXCUSE not to produce any records that prove even one jew was gassed,

but you failed to produce anything at all.

So why would germany deport the jews after taking them in as refugees?

Pretty tough to claim that germany was antisemite when they took them in as refugees.

So why? Its becoming increasingly clear there is something seriously wrong with this picture you are insisting is true

 

but exterminated in that time means deported, now the british and the us since then rewrote the definition and its being misapplied

The jews wanted annihilation its on the historical record

“Millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North and South Africa and Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end.” The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September, 13, 1939.

 

Which is why you support the outlawing of Holocaust denial? That's what happens when the leadership of a country is pissed off enough to kick a group of people to the curb.

Already provided. Your side already lost in court.

You don't think that removing citizenship from all Jews is anti-Semitic? How do you defend that claim?