Buffalo white supremacist Terrorist

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  1. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    Again, I object to the term, "hate speech". Short of deliberately inciting violence itself, which is criminal, the term is abusive, slanderous, etc. I'm sure there are things this loon wrote I disagree with. Somethings I might agree with.

    Do you have a specific thing in his writing you want to call out? Is this the thread for that?


    It would not surprise me to find a lot of what this loon wrote, I'd agree with and think it comes from patriots. I understand he wrote about the great replacement for instance. Yet some are calling this maniac an authoritarian Leftist. I'm sure I'd hate that stuff but not call it "hate speech" You have the right to be an idiot. We are supposed to reason together.
    But with the authoritarian Left in this country we have so much work to do to get them to see that calling anything they don't like "hate speech" and try to ban it is un-American, anti intellectual and is going to cause more harm than good. Bad ideas should be seen in the light to be exposed.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem for you is that he considered himself a communist from a young age, and says his political beliefs are authoritarian left according to his own words.

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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have once again incorrectly labeled me as a right winger. Those with no party affiliation can spot fallacies as well. Those that paint entire groups with a broad stroke based on the actions of few are no better than racists.

    You used this tragedy as an excuse to attack Republicans under the guise of concern for human life. Where is this concern in Dem run cities where the tragic loss of life is common?

    Next, you used this tragedy to attack the rights of law abiding gun owners. Do you believe that NY has lax gun laws?

    Murder is one issue that both sides agree on, but instead of working together, they fight among each other while evil thrives.
     
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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Does hate speech make you want to shoot people?
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The gun that this kid used was carried across the border and sold off by a drug guard.

    Blacks will continue to vote for Democrats because they think that it is in their own self-interest to do so.

    The Globalist Elites are profiting from the Biden Administration while average folks are not.

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    Did I miss anything ?????
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why would that be a "problem" for me? Why should I give a crap? Why do YOU give a crap if he was a communist or not?

    But you don't appear to give that much of a crap about the fact that he killed black people motivated by white supremacist hate speech of the type that is repeated daily on fox, Breitbart, .. and the rest of the other MAGA-extremist media?
     
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    I believe hate speech can dehumanize one person or group against another. History shows this. Once dehumanized, extermination/killing becomes much more delusionally justified.
     
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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. But that’s not an answer to the question.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the fact that he's an authoritarian leftist has left you apoplectic.
     
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    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

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    Gangs killing as many people attract so little attention. The sickness of such killing is sufficient in itself. Trying to enlarge the hate and division with propagandistic rhetoric serves those who wish to divide and maintain the conquered.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like those dirty anti-vaxxers and insurrectionists.
     
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    Non sequitur off topic deflection.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except it's not. Completely on topic.

    You just don't like the truth behind it.
     
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    And another deflection that leads to an off topic rabbit hole. Sorry.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It certainly made this guy shoot people. Which is obvious. So I don't understand the purpose of your question.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your claim is total BS because it does not support the factual evidence.

    Lawlessness begets further lawlessness.

    This shooter clearly verbally expressed that he was motivated by the Milwaukee murders.

    He had the name of one of the Milwaukee victims carved into his rifle stock.

    A LEFTIST motivated by other LEFTIST behavior.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you classified hate speech as dehumanizing speech, and no group regurgitates more dehumanizing speech than leftists...and I gave some examples of it.

    You simply hate that I'm right and would like to dismiss it.

    I'm fully aware of leftist proclivities.

    Would you like to call me some names now?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What part of "I don't give a crap" are you not understanding? And is the fact that YOU care the same reason why you don't care that the white supremacist motivated by hate speech went out on a shooting spree hunting for black people?
     
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    Did it? If hate speech made everyone shoot people it would be obvious.

    Why doesn’t hate speech make you want to shoot people? Or do you want to shoot people, you are just afraid to admit it? What is obvious to critical thinkers is that there is something besides hate speech involved here. Otherwise everyone would be shooting people because contact with hate speech is unavoidable.

    The purpose to my question is to find out if hate speech makes you want to shoot people. Does it? It’s a very simple question, don’t be scared of being honest.
     
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    So you're just going to sit there and deny that he repeatedly referred to the white supremacist conspiracy theory that is known as "The Great Replacement" conspiracy theory pushed by Tucker Carlson and others.

    Ok. Denying reality is one way of dealing with it, I guess...
     
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    And yet you have another mass deletion of your post in this thread for the same reason you accuse other of.
    Go figure
    I guess that SIG recommendation is just for show
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Everyone"? What the hell are you talking about?

    Yours is not the first weird post I've seen attempting to defend hate speech. But yours is the weirdest.
     
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    Saying hate speech made you shoot someone is like saying ice cream made you fat.

    But you have to love the lefts dedication to the hate speech rhetoric, which is only used to control what other people say.
    I guess the left isn't adult enough to be able to defend themselves so they need government interdiction to protect their feelings.
     
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    You don't care? You mean you don't care now that your OP called him out as "right wing" and you claimed "right wing" violence was responsible for most attacks in the US?

    It's not that you don't care, it's that you don't want to acknowledge or even hear the truth.

    You also claimed in your OP that more stringent gun laws were required, yet the shooter chose the location because he knew NY had strict gun laws meaning the people he was going to attack would be defenseless.

    You don't want the truth, you just want to advance your leftist agenda.

    The agenda that has caused the extremists on all sides to start killing each other.

    Maybe you'll be the next victim on a NY subway or a NY grocery store (funny how killers choose gun free zones, eh) because of your skin color.
     
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    So you think my post was deleted because right wingers can't explain why they are trying to defend hate speech that led a white supremacist to target and kill white people?
     

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