Do you think the election of Obama-Biden 2008 worsened racial tension?

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Sadly my family is filled with racists. Its really quite shameful really. Because IMO, if someone is a racist, then, they are a horrible person, and no other redeeming qualities can make up for that.

    As for the rest. The odds may favor you, but.... you would be wrong.
     
  2. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    And this is why almost the entirety of the republican party went insane once a black man was elected.....
     
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    I won't spend the time hunting down the number of times posters on here refer to Obama as the 'First Black President', or Mrs. Obama as 'The First Black First Lady'. And then called other posters racists because they disagreed with Obama's policies.

    When you identify someone first and foremost by the color of their skin, you are acknowledging that is the primary attribute. Not that they are human, or a good this-or-that, but that their skin color is first and foremost.

    That is a sad statement on people who think they walk the high road, when they really are knee deep in identity politics and don't care about the human but only what they represent.
     
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    You realize nobody believes that you have a bunch of friends around you who just casually throw out ****** in conversation… right?
     
  5. ShadowX

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    I haven’t checked the timeline. But when did Martin and … what’s his name… Mr Hands Up Don’t Shoot in Ferguson get killed?
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ferguson was in August 2014 which fits the timeline. Trayvon Martin was in February 2012 which doesn’t. I googled them. I then googled riots, there’s been a ton of them since 2013. But there were just as many if not more prior to that.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States#2010–2019
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    [QUOTE="Hey Now, post: 1073451456, member: 103290"The Russia 2016 election interference alone with an international white nationalist united push also occurred directly under his watch.[/QUOTE]What, of any import (other than their assistance to Hillary) Russian 2016 interference under what white nationalist?? Whatever occurred under Obama's watch occurred despite Obama's effort to obstruct it.
     
  8. Hey Now

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    I believe forum rules require you quote my entire post and highlight what it is you are attempting but failing to address. Thanks.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Absurd. Nonsense. Even those if us who didn't vote for still hoped he would be the bullet that killed the Democrat race card sadly it didn't in fact the left doubled down on that BS like there was no tomorrow.

    Any criticism of any Obama admin policy no matter how it was couched was automatically called racist, not because it was racist but because it's easier to call some one a racist that it is to defend bad policy.
     
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    ""He was black and Republicans HATED him and openly said he was elected only because he was black. Then followed the birther nonsense, and "he is a muslim" stuff,""

    Obama was as much white as he was black.. his family blood runs red no matter what the skin color..

    Muslim?... He said he was Christian.... I have noticed the focus on Muslim has went away from 2016 on. NASA is no longer an agencies sympathizing to Muslims as initiated by Obama.
     
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  11. Lil Mike

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    Yeah that's kind of my take too.

    Obama was no radical black nationalist; his views were basically the garden variety faculty lounge type. But the fact that the left and particularly the media took his blackness as a free for all to attack anyone on the right as a racist simply for opposing any of his policies. I remember early in his Presidency I was called a racist for opposing his stimulus bill. It was silly, but the lasting legacy is that the term "racist" as a term as been so devalued that it's mostly meaningless now unless you're in the rap business.

    As far as racial tensions go, Obama does hold a lot of responsibility for enflaming, rather than trying to cool, racial tension over Trayvon Martin and Ferguson. In both cases, he was afraid of getting ahead of his supporters by calming things down and instead joined the chorus of declaring both incidents racist (they were not).

    Now, the Democratic Party has moved so far left from where Obama was that they don't really harken back very much to his Presidency which is kind of surprising.
     
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    Things that never happened for $500 Alex!
     
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    Except we didn't. We complained about policy. Democrats decided that complaining about policy was racist even when the policy and actions themselves were entirely racist.
     
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    So far we have one guys family.
     
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    I know, you can't disassociate policy from race, be get it. It is pretty sad though.
     
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    Surely you don't believe there was no racial component to the Right's hatred of Obama, do you? The sort of thing that burst out in to the open when the former orange Bigot-in-Chief was elected.
     
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    Not sure what you mean by that unless you're talking Trump. Nonetheless, many on the right could not handle having a black president. That's just a fact. And, "the right" did not elect Obama. As usual, the moderates, centrists, and independents elect the president and many of them went for Obama in those elections.
     
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    He was black in most people's eyes.

    One day they said he was a muslim, and the next they said he sat in a radical Christian church for 20 years.

    Yes, with the arrival of Trump, the "eye of Mordor" was turned to immigrants, the media, and critics of Trump.
     
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    I liked McCain, but a Republican didn't stand a chance after the disaster of "W" presidency.
     
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    Then I'm sure we have supporting links for your 'Nonetheless, many on the right could not handle having a black president. That's just a fact.' Otherwise, I can state as fact that I have never encountered anyone that had an issue about the color of Obama's skin.

    I am an Independent. I didn't vote for any member of the duopoly, as I felt none were qualified to take this country in the right direction.
     
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    Actually, he was promoted as Black. Hyped as the 'First Black President'. As though his skin color was more important then his policies, or even the type of person he was.

    Out of curiosity, how far back in one's family history can one claim having that 'one drop' for racial sake? The Scots go for 100 generations. Is it the same for Blacks? What about Asian ancestors. What's their blood expiration date?
     
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    In US half black is considered black. You might consider it "as though his skin color was more important", but in the end calling him 1st black president is only stating a fact. You are proving what I said earlier (that his critics argue he was elected only because he is black).

    I don't know but in his case it went to his father who was 100% African black.

    I voted for Ron Paul in 2008.
     
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    If you feel it's just stating 'fact', then why hasn't skin color of other Presidents been brought up as descriptors? Or hair color, eye color, or other aspects that they have no control over?

    I don't know or care if he was elected because of his skin color or not, but apparently a large number of those who voted for him do, since apparently his skin color is important to them. Acknowledging their opinion, doesn't mean I support the idea.
     
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    Maybe because they have all been the same color.

    Why does it trigger you that they called him 1st black president? Would it make you feel better if Biden was called the 45th White president?
     
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    Obama pioneered “identity politics” which buttressed by everyone having an internet bullhorn grew into the most destructive force in America. He dehumanized Americans and divided the country into clans, each with their own non negotiable beefs.
    IMO, this helps explain why one clan or another violently demonstrates, burns, loots, murders, assaults, or robs without any thought as to the humanity of their “target”. Fellow Americans have been distilled down to a “Them”.
     

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