Joe Biden: "When it comes to the gas prices, we're going through an INCREDIBLE transition"

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    They're only going to drill if they can profit from doing so... and if the government would permit them to do so
     
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    Well, when you complain about the ramifications of doing this, don't complain towards me or blame me for it... You only have yourself to blame.
     
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    It is unconscionable for the moronic Biden to force everyone off fossil fuels when it will be by most scientific estimates 25 years before alternatives to fossil fuels will be able to handle all the needs of energy in daily life.

    What Biden is doing is like a doctor telling me I have to lose 50 pounds and at the same time forcing me to wear a size-small-waisted pair of jeans. I mean, I may eventually lose the 50 but I can't wear the size-small-waisted jeans right now.:roll:
     
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    This is misinformation. The federal gov't is limiting permits to drilling oil.
     
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    WTF.... I didn't say he signed any policy after he left, that's impossible but his policy of messing with the oil market and the Saudi's is still being felt today. That policy of his has 100% more to do with gas prices today than any policy of Bidens
    BTW.... Trump is evil but is no genius by any means.
     
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    Biden is at fault because he was the one who reversed the Trump energy policies that provided an environment for low prices... Biden is now providing an environment for high prices via his war on carbon based fuels.
     
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    On the surface, you could say you make a point but the fact is that Biden (or Democrats) would never think of doing a completly idiodic move like Trump did.
     
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    Except prices were rising before Biden took office and are up globally
     
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    They will mindlessly label it as "misinformation" (or whatever buzzword they're using these days), even though this information can be found right on the White House's official website.
     
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    Sure, say whatever you want to rationalize your hypocritical statements. No one is buying it except sheeple.
     
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    Electric just can't handle the heavy duty work that gasoline can, and doesn't really work for rural life.
     
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    How does the govt. stop drilling for oil on private lands?
     
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    Is that why trains use electric engines to pull and push freight?
     
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    Yeah, but production DID increase, so explain that. Also, none of these things have anything to do with today's gas prices.

    Biden did go to OPEC+ and they told him to go scratch because of the Trump nonsense. Did you miss that?
    Signal to the world that he's "turning American oil producers loose" would have done nothing immediately and if you think you're Iran example is proof, you;'re wrong because no one would believe that such a thing would happen.
     
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    To the good of no one :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    The information I have shared is readily available on the White House's own official website.

    Leases are not permits.

    Oil companies can't drill on leased land without a permit, and the government is cancelling permits (while generally not allowing new ones), so between that and the million other regulatory hoops oil companies are required to jump through IF they can even get a permit, those companies simply "move on" because time is money.

    Learn how a profitable business works.

    Yes.

    To act as if concepts are laughable means that you want to be irrational.
     
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    Hell it won't work in California. They did a study a year or so back and if 30% of the vehicles in California go electric the grid fails. It's hilarious watching the idiots support something that isn't attainable, nor sustainable, nor GREEN. If they really wanted Green energy you would see nuclear plants but no they want dirty battery mineral mining with no way to recycle, and to top it off China owns the battery mineral market. The politicians are being paid by China, hence let's go to battery vehicles lol.
     
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    So....you think you have refuted my claim of "oil companies know where the oil is" and what you are saying is that all these land leases that aren't there anymore because Biden took them away would have been a crap shoot anyway or are you saying that Biden knows where the oil is and is simply being a dick to the oil companies.
     
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    That's false. LINK: U.S. Average Retail Gas Prices - USAFacts

    Gas prices hit a peak in May 2019 at $2.83/gal average. Between then and May 2020 it went down to $1.75 and then started going up. After May 2020 prices started rising. Took a small dip twice but other than that has steadily climbed and hasn't stopped climbing.
     
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    No they weren't. The price of gasoline did not rise (and rise and rise and rise and rise) until after Biden was installed. --- Is this Leftist Revisionist History again??

    No, they aren't. They are not up in Russia, for one example.
     
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    We aren't talking about private lands. We are talking about public lands. Stay focused.
     
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    Radioactive waste is clean?
     
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    The Oil Industry's Public Lands Stockpile
    Oil and gas companies are sitting on millions of acres of idle leases that they've acquired through a rigged system | February 2021
    .The oil industry is currently sitting on 9.9 million acres of idle leases in the West—47.4 percent of all leases in the region—that are available to drill even during the Biden administration's temporary leasing pause. The leasing pause is designed to provide time to evaluate the federal oil and gas leasing system. It is clear that the leasing pause will not devastate the oil and gas industry, as the industry has stockpiled enough leases and approved drilling permits to continue drilling for years. This stockpile is more than sufficient to tide the industry over until our broken federal land leasing system is evaluated and modernized.
    https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/63745d4475104a33968081ff008e36b9
     
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    $1.34/gallon
     
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    There is only one electric engine train that hauls freight. And that JUST started In Sept 2021. LINK: World's first battery-electric freight train debuts in U.S. amid push for lower rail emissions | Canada's National Observer: News & Analysis All other trains that haul freight are still running on diesel. There are electric trains that haul people around though. Perhaps you were thinking of those?
     
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