Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

It seems Russia has been doing the invading in recent modern history, no? Do you want references to the Russian invasions?

 

I want references to ''numerous invasions'' in Ukraine since Lenin times , as we speak here about Ukraine.

 

You just made my point. Ukraine didn't want to be in the Soviet Union, didn't want to be a Bolshevik state, didn't want to
be starved out by Stalin, didn't want to be a part of Lenin's WW2 ambitions by invading Poland, didn't want to lose its
Donbass to 'volunteers' and didn't want Putin to take its Crimea.

 

No...we don't have bad education here vis....otherwise oligarchs wouldn't send their snot nosed offspring here....

Oh please....not this "America bad" again.....it's getting old.

Who's real invader?.....easy...it's Mafiosi Land vis....all those adventures resulted in a vanquished empire that continues to crumble.....

 

Indeed. First sensible thing you've said.

Let's stick to Ukraine.

 

Apart from Donbass and Crimea, the rest is wrong. Ukraine was a co-founder of the USSR so taking about the invasions of Russia at that time does not make any sense. Moreover, blaming Russia in terms of Stalin is stupid as Stalin was Georgian, as well as Beria. And one more interesting thing for you. The first Soviet government consisted mosty of Jews. So taking about evil Russia and Russians is rediculous.

 

So you have no facts to present. I see.

 

Noone argues here about invasion in Donbass. What else?

 

You wanted evidence of the invasion of Ukraine. I provided. Want some more?

 

The statement was that Russia invaded Ukraine 5 times since 1920. Now I want the references to all these 5 times. When and exactly were in Ukraine.

 

Holodomor is another....Crimea....Donbass....WW2(when Krauts retreated)....

 

Uhh...no vis....you're aware yourself ...just don't like the narrative. See my previous post.

 

According to @vis and others.....this isn't an "invasion" it's a "special operation" to Denazify Europe including Moldova,Belarus,Baltics,Poland,Sweden, ....and annex territory to the RF.....ethnically cleanse locals and bring in asiatic zhradniks to occupy.

 

All issues had to be resolved before the war. All proposals after the start of the war no longer make sense. If Russia leaves, then everything will start from the beginning.
By refusing to guarantee not to deploy its missiles in Ukraine, the United States made it clear that they are creating the conditions for the rapid destruction of Russia with impunity.

 

Any links to this...."US made it clear that yhey are creating conditions for Mafiosi destruction"?

 

Holodomor is not an invasion, first.. Second, people starved across the whole territory of Soviet Union, not only in Ukraine. End of WW2: there was no invasion of Russia in Ukraine. Soviet Army (and not Russian Army) consisted of Russians, Ukranians, Belorussians, Kazakhs and other nationalities of Soviet Union. It liberated Ukraine from Nazis, and again, as Ukraine was in Soviet Union - it is not an invasion.

 

Intrusion is not necessarily aggression. A preventive attack is part of a strategic defense. This is taught in all military academies.
No one was against the capture of the Baltic states in 1940. This was necessary for Hitler to attack from Germany and not from Estonia.

 

The appearance of US missiles 300 km from Russian strategic missiles is very dangerous for Russia.
What other links are needed if US missiles can destroy Russian missiles even before launch?

 

That's wrong.
Ukraine didn't threaten ruzzia and was attacked anyway. Ruzzian fascism is not self-defense.

Nope; hiding behind an iron curtain from the rabid Soviet monster was an option back then. But not today. The ruZZian monster must be chained forever or killed.

The unholy orc leader Pooteen has shown the whole world that there can never be peace with ruzzia.

 

Pre-emptive attacks are legal during a war, but not to start a war against a peaceful country.

 

This is true everywhere. Vladimir Putin has been very generous, and there would have been no reason for him not to come to an agreement with Japan over the Kuril Islands. He knows though that if they were given back to Japan then American forces and bases would appear and threaten Russia.

As to N. Korea, Moscow came up with a roadmap on how Kim could disarm his nuclear weapons and in return guaranteed their safety by Moscow. It was approved by China and Germany and was being seriously considered by Kim.

In return S. Korea had to remove its American missiles as well and the resumption of trade through the Koreas would have benefitted Russia. Naturally Bolton the war monger went there and destroyed all of Trump's overtures by referring to that which Kim feared the most, Libya and our false promises to Khadify.

 

I asked for links?

 

Uh...yeah vis Holodomor was invasion...starve out locals....bring in invaders.....just like invasions of former Soviet satellites.....you have strange logic dude.

 

He's German-ukrainian living in America that supports the Nazis in Ukraine, so it is best to read his bla bla through this lens.

 

I do not think there are any links for this.